?Black box in 2000 wrangler, 96 cherokee.

Dec 23, 2006 24 Replies

I am wondering if a 2000 wrangler or 1996 Cherokee would have them (and whether they can be turned off). Just read a story saying that the auto's manual won't tell you if you have them, but that basically any car with an airbag does have them.



snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com proclaimed:

What is it you are afraid of?

Your sources are incorrect, it isn't the airbag. It is the vehicle control system(s) that run your engine, transmission, etc. etc.

Just make sure you wear your foil hat at night and you'll be fine.

"The "black box" recorded that the SUV was traveling at 71 mph about five seconds before its airbags deployed. Trask told investigators that his speedometer showed 55 mph before he began passing the car."

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Can you afford the attorney fees necessary to protect yourself?

-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

This just proves that someone involved in the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" was able to either alter the black box data after the fact.

So the guy tried to lie for an insurance scam or to avoid a ticket or to avoid liability with whom he hit.

The SOB deserves every ticket and lawyers fees he has incurred in my opinion And he deserves to be nailed for being a liar.

What about the victims of his lies?

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail >

If he was going 55 "before he began passing the car" he probably was doing

71, that would be a reasonable and safe passing speed .... well assuming that the speed limit was not the 45 mph that it was.

So you're doing 65 in a 60 when the guy next to you sideswipes you into the ditch. Want to guess who's fault it is?

Perhaps you'll like paying taxes based on the miles you drive? Or the roads you drive on?

This is only the start and already we're not being informed of the extent of the monitoring underway. It's only going to become more and more obtrusive.

-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

The limited information and the limited ways the "black boxes" are now used are just the beginning. I can easily foresee a future where the "black box" is used for all kinds of more government regulations, controls, and limitations on everybody's life.

Extra taxation for miles driven, roads that I drive on, lanes that I drive on, where I have been, what time of day or night, and many other limitations, taxations and controls on my life that I am not even able to imagine at this time.

For those who think that this is paranoid thinking, please read George Orwell's book, 1984, or Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I realize that both of these books are fiction, but much of this "fiction" is already happening and will happen in the near future.

Just look at all the new controls, regulations, taxations, and limitations on personal freedoms that governments have instituted in the last 10, 20 or

30 years to get an idea of some of the ways "black boxes" might be used in the future. For all you smokers (I don't smoke,) how long will it be before smoking in your own vehicle is outlawed and the "black box" will not allow your vehicle to start if tobacco smoke is detected?

Tom

I knew a guy who got in a head-on collision while trying to light a cigaret. Your tobacco smoke detector wouldn't have detected that. Also some citizens prefer to smoke non-tobacco substances. How will you prevent them from smoking in their vehicles?

Earle

Infrared detectors preset for 700 degrees.

Just move the gas tank back inside the cabin. :)

Earl:

I'm not advocating tobacco smoke detectors, or any other kind of smoke detectors. I'm just saying that the information "black boxes" of today contain, and ways they are now being used are just the beginning of ever-increasing controls, regulations, limitations of personal freedoms and possible taxations on all of our lives.

Tom

Foolish question, but why shouldn't you pay extra taxes for the miles you drive (to pay your share of the road repairs), when compared to someone who doesn't drive as many miles? Why shouldn't you be charged/convicted based on your actions in a collision, rather than relying on your perhaps faulty/dishonest recollection of split second timing months later?

Clint

Clint:

I already DO pay taxes for the miles that I drive in the form of gasoline taxes, which account for probably about 1/3 of the price of a gallon of gas that I pay now.

I hope you are not advocating another form of taxation on top of the LITERALLY hundreds of different kinds of taxation that you and I already pay.

Tom

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