L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III did pass the time by typing:
I say if the schools that don't have the Pledge of Allegiance shouldn't be getting federal funding.
These asshats have the audacity to piss on the very memory of folks that gave their lives to protect all our rights. I hear they don't do the Pledge over in Iran, how about sending them over there for an education in civil rights?
A couple Demon-cratic based organizations commissioned an actual recount of the ballots and Mr. Bush won again. That story didn't get much air time on the liberal-commie-demoncratic national news programs.
We use the same machine in Ohio with no problems as the general electorate and even the Demoncrats know how to operate the machine and there is a statewide standard for the possible problem of 'hanging chads'. In every election since then I have examined the paper ballot have not seen a hanging chad.
As far as people who claimed they voted for a candidate other than the one they intended I am assuming Florida has a 'correction' procedure (Ohio does). The ballot design was approved in advance by the Demoncratic members of the election commission. The Demoncrats actively tried to prevent the counting of active duty military absentee ballots. and most interesting of all they had the King of Kook Kounty (Richard Daley Jr) as their point man. In a way it makes sense, there has never been an honest vote in Kook Kounty this century so he would certainly know how to fix an election.
I don't know if you are familiar with the machine
Is that another 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling?
Ya know Bill........
Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national service for all young people.
Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all should go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope smoking liberal big city boy watching my back.
There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC back in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public facilities staffed.
I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read. Send ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.
Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare the heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)
Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we consider commonplace, the things any householder should know.
I want the draft, too, but W has worn against it. And everything I've hear say the troops don't want it either. Geez, I know I spent most of my tour drunk, bad mouthing lifers, but I thought I did my job well.
You could probably keep most of the military as a volunteer professional unit.
If necessary you could use draftees for the non mission critical MOS. This would also keep the locals used as menial labor out of camp and unable to pass along intelligence to the enemy.
By sending everyone to boot camp would teach people the value and necessity of cooperation, unit cohesion and perhaps the principals of duty and honor.
When Bobby was in boot camp half their unit was girls. He said a number of the girls (and a few of the boys) were always whining about something or other. But as you recall when ANYONE screws up EVERYONE is punished. This is intended to teach you to cooperate as a unit and put the unit's well being above your own pettiness.
I see this a lot at work where younger people seem to have never been taught to cooperate by their parents, teachers, or a strict DI (and his house mouse).
The way I was raised (and I assume you) was that you finished up your job before you quit for the day and you did not leave a mess for the next guy. If you had to stay over a couple minutes (unpaid) well... that was life. Nowadays the younger folk stop taking new work 15-20 minutes early to be sure they can saunter out the door exactly on time.
Billy Ray proclaimed:
If it were mandatory, they could even plan for it. I know more than a few college counsellors that would prefer to have kids at least a coupla years more grown up before being inflicted on a campus. My personal opinion is that if you ain't willing to give a coupla years to your country, just possibly you don't deserve that country.
To me depends on how good an aim he is when stoned outta his mind. I dunno that it all would be military. Some of the programs like Peace Corpse, Civilian Conservation Corpse, etc. could be worthwhile places to have young kids serve their countries for a coupla years. Stuff like building projects in national parks, cleaning those parks, new trails in the parks would be good use. Or working with the Corps of Engineers building up some of the anti-flood measures the greenies have let detiorate for so many decades. You serve your country for two years with no choice, or three years with choice. In return, you do get a pay check, even some training that might be valuable, plus the most important lesson, which is learning to let go of mommie and daddie's bank accounts and stand on your own two feet. No rich boy exclusions period. Serve. Period.
I suspect the programs would pay for themselves overnight, which is why I also suspect they haven't a prayer of being enacted.
Oh hell yes. Some of the more famous features of our national parks were just CCC projects at one time.
Send kids to places they ain't been and let them learn to get along with folks they ain't met. Highly educational experience.
Or send San Francisco kids to the deep south as hair dressers to get rid of those dreaded beehive hairdos.
Still think the weaning from mommy and daddy would be the most useful lessons learned.
Funny you mention it, Germany has such a program for its citizens, as do many other countries, I imagine. Not a particularly bad idea.
Problem is, in this country there is such a sense of entitlement, "I got mine," that something like this would be quite unpopular. And believe me, there would be a way for the "rich boys" to loophole around it. God forbid, the children of Congress members and Big Business lift a finger to help their country.
We already have such a program. It's called "income tax". And you don't have to be rich to find loopholes, just not stupid. I am not so sure that Congress and Big Business don't pay their share, either. Somebody has to run this mess, and it doesn't look like such a fun job to me. Even if you live off the public dole or a trust fund your whole life, you still have to put up with the rest of the losers who live in this sad excuse for a country, and that should be enough. Everybody has to pay, so stop griping about how somebody else seems to have a better seat.
I don't think that it is so much a question of "I got mine", either. To me, it's more like being asked to do things, that don't need to be done. Like that whole Vietnam or Iraq thing. It just looks like busy-work to me. Or sending a check to the Department of the Treasury. They already have lots of my money. What did they do with it all? Maybe if you allowed Sierra Club workshops and protest marches, volunteer efforts for agencies that do not take government money, or whole-hearted membership in subversive organizations, I could be convinced.
Earle
Earle, I started paying into Social Security in 1956. Just for grins, I went back and plugged my SS payments into a program. I broke each year's total into equal monthly payments then applied the T-Bill intrest rate on a month-by-month basis. As Robert Heinlein observed in on of his books, "Compound interest is the greatest thing aound". Today, I would be drawing almost twice as much interest on that account as I do Social Security retirement. I don't feel I'm feeding at any public trough - in effect I'm still contributing half my SS retirement back to the system. Then they make me pay income taxt on what I do get...
Side note: a friend of m> We already have such a program. It's called "income tax". And you don't
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