DOH brakes!

Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.

Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style typovision.

Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor on the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring kit, clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout units. The old Chevy was stamped tin.

That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly bits and springs.

So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts. Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!

Left side was about 3mm on both pads.

Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back in. Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it was one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.

Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.

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DougW
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RoyJ

Yea, I pulled them out and cleaned/lubed them. No corrosion, but the little boots were showing cracks so it's time to get some replacements. Did see some wear on the surface where the pads ride the top ledge. About 1mm of depth and 1/2" wide looked machined. Don't remember if that notch is stock or not, been too long since I did brake work.

Used regular brake grease on the pins. Probably should use a lighter grease or silicone, but that's all I had.

I just flat let the pads get too damn thin. 2mm of difference isn't that much over the lifetime.

Thanks for the hint though. Think I'll get a new set of pins and gaskets, or at least gaskets.

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DougW

DougW wrote: > Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back in.

I just push the pistons back in and put the new pads on. Why do you open up the system? Just the way I've always done discs, never had a problem.

tw

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twaldron

The auto stores sell little packs of the special high temp, silicone based grease for this application. Usually in a rack near the cash register for $.99 or $1.29. Well worth it.

I live > RoyJ wrote:

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RoyJ

I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little springs on.

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Zelix

You did have the brake spring pliers, right?

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c

Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear misery getting that last spring on.

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Zelix

Sure is, you get your buddy to do it, that's why you start any such job by getting a keg of beer, didn't you know that? ;-)

NOTE: Barbeque works well also.

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XS11E

It's worth a keg of beer not to ever have to do it again.

I repete: shear misery.

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Zelix

It's one way of doing the job, you basically push the old fluid out and refill from the reservoir instead of having to suction off fluid when you push the pistons back in. It's much easier to push the piston back in also. Your basic hand pressure is enough.

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DougW

Heh.. I have one of those but couldn't find it. :( I just used vice grips.

I use the hook to walk the old spring off. Then the C notched handle to put the new springs on. Just hook the spring over the handle, hook the C over the big pin, then pry up till the spring slides into place. Easier to show than to type. :/

The Cup is used to take the spring clips off the "nails" and to install them back on. I use a purpose built driver for that.

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DougW

Ok. I don't touch the master cylinder at all and just push the pistons back in, leaving the system closed throughout the job. No muss, no fuss.

tw

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twaldron

Don't do that on an ABS system, you'll be sorry sooner or later, when a spec of crud gets into the valving. Spdloader

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Spdloader

Yeah, untill you hit one where the guy at Jiffy Lube topped off the m/c the day before. Then ya got brake fluid everywhere.

-- Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM

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Old Crow

Hate to tell you, but you're using them wrong. The"cup" is for taking the top springs off the anchor pin. Put the cup over the pin, rotate the pliers and the little tab on the cup hooks the spring and lifts it over the end of the anchor pin.

-- Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM

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Old Crow

Psha! It's hard enough to get those guys to put _OIL_ back in the motor...They're going to OPEN the master cylinder?? Hahahhaha! Funny. But I do get your point.

tw

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twaldron

doh, your correct. That's why I had to buy one of these for the clips.

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And I still can't find my brake pliars. :( Don't ya hate it when tools grow legs.....

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DougW

They all have legs, that's why you put leashes on them. Give them an inch.....

tw

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twaldron

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Heh. The lower left is the worst point. Of course at this thickness if they were rivited the rivits would be grinding.

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DougW

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