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Bill didn't miss the point, he selects arbitrary (and usually irrelivant) points to suit the link he's posting or to get away from the fact that he has just been schooled but can't accept it.

Case in point he mentioned Semi trucks have drum brakes... which is so utterly irrelivant that he might as well have said his 1935 soap box racer he made in his youth, had rubber sneaker drag brakes.

If you mention that a boxed frame Jeep has more strength and rigidity he will ALWAYS say that Semi tractors have open C channel frames, he has no clue WHY! If he had a clue he wouldn't mention that they have C-channel, frames because he would realize he was defeating his own argument.

(PS. Semi's have open channel frames because they NEED TO FLEX! to handle up to 80,000 pound loads, they are DESIGNED to be flexible in a predictable and consistent manner).

If you mention Coil springs he will mention Semi's and heavy tow and vehicles have leafs... apearently believeing that towing capacity equates to off road prowess.

Basically Bill stopped believing in reality about 30 years ago but he hasn't let that stop him from being an opinionated old kook. Who thinks that anything new is inferior (including fuel injection... because 1500 Horse power top fuel dragsters use carburetors!!!)

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Do you really think a 30 year old AMC v8 is putting out those numbers at the wheels?

Did the point completely zip past that rigid old mind of yours? Or are you intentionally playing stupid?

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You don't have to remind me, Simon... :-)

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Matt Macchiarolo

Cherokee will be your best bet.

and for the SECOND time.. Liberty = Libby pay attention or I'll have to smack you.

*weg*

Kate

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Jeep Liberty (Libby) is a relatively new model and the prices probably haven't come down to where you are looking. And there is a huge problem with the front ball joints as well.

You won't see a CJ-5 in your price range that won't need a lot of repairs & restoration. You can get a fully restored one for something in the neightborhood of $10K +, a drivevale but rusty one for $5K-10K and a barely running (if at all) project vehicle for 2K-5K. None of this will include your chiropractor's bill for your lower back. The transfer cases on some also aren't ideal for flat-towing.

The Cherolee's depending on the years will set you back say 3-4K for a mid-90's and up, newer models of course would go for more. Most of them had the 6-cyl but the fours are out there. It would be a good choice for an all-around utility vehcle. Look for one with a Command Trac part-time transfer case, it will keep purchase cost down and it's simpler than the full-time cases, so lesss to go wrong. Also, some full time 'cases may be without a Neutral position, (but that might apply only to the Grand Cherokee) and you would want to avoid those, it will make it difficult to tow. To tow you would put the tranny in gear or Park, the T case in Neutral, ignition key unlocked. Look for rust under the front floorboards.

For a more fun vehicle you might look at a 90's and up Wrangler, in 97 there was a major redesign that provides a better ride and off-road capability. Also they would be slightly easier to set up for flat towing since the front bumper is flat and easily accommodates towbar tabs, where the Cherokee's unibody will requires some additional effort to install towbar tabs. That and you can put the top down on a beautiful day! A Wrangler in stock for is actually a little heavier than the Cherokee, since it is a body-on-frame, but most RV's won't know the difference.

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Yeah, so he's going to find a mechanically peferct CJ -5 for cheap that won't need a ton of body work because the sheetmetal will be gone. Riiiight.

Get some rest this holiday Bill, sound like you need it.

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L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Bill, go back to the original post and tell me if you think the OP is willing to go to all this trouble.

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You are completely hopeless.

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Matt Macchiarolo

Any way I can convert my Cherokee to king pins like my Studebakers have? King pins don't have this problem!

I'm kidding, mostly.

Jeff DeWitt

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Jeeps must have off road ability and last a couple hundred k miles... But I know you don't get it... The facts are plain to anyone who's not completely out of touch... I wonder if you would try to sell a Baja driver or pro Rock crawler on Leafs by telling them that Semi's have them... The fact that there are professional racers who stand to make MONEY by WINNING who have all by in large chucked their leaf springs for Coils should tell you _something_. But no one and nothing can tell you ANYTHING. Parnelli Jones and Ivan Stawart could tell you you are totally wrong and you would tell them they don't know anything!

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Simon Juncal

The ignorance and stupidity here is someone not remembering the subject of this thread... Do you really think a 1000hp AMC 8 would be cheap? Do you think a couple traveling around in an RV have the shop and resources to build it?

We're talking about 30 year old "cheap" CJ5's to tow behind a freakin RV let me emphasise "CHEAP!" NOT YOUR delusions. Try for once to get at least a loose gasp on what we're talking about here would you?

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Simon Juncal

I don't have to try anything, they are both Jeeps and I don't need your approval. And wife's is not a Rubicon. Don't post again until your medication wears off.

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Matt Macchiarolo

How would I mount a motorcycle on a Cherokee? It seems to me that

hitch-mount would make the rigs' front tires a little too light on th road and cause some wobble or walking when being towed. The Bultac weighs in at 200 pounds plus the hitch rack, call it 300 total torque/couple/leverage/moment(thats the word) 12 inchs out passed th receiver face. Multiplied by the short wheelbase would cause a liftin of the front end. Right?

Does this make the Wrangler a better choice with the bike mounted UP o the back seat or where ever?

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