In article , Grumman-581 wrote: #I went up to the tow facilty on Sunday to get some personal items out #of the vehicle, took some photos, and put them on a page that I had #started for the WJ, but never got around to finishing... # #Does it look totalled to ya'll? # #
/herb
One thing I learned in EMT class, is that the way to get killed in a rollover, is by being ejected from the vehicle. The original purpose of seat belts was to keep people inside the vehicle, where ninety-nine times out of a hundred it is safer, than flying out the window. Later, after they figured out that people were hitting their heads on the dash, padded dashboard and shoulder belts were added. Even later, when they figured out that some people would always refuse to do what was good for them, air bags and automatic tightening shoulder belts were added. If you have ever seen the film clip, of a pyrotechnic shoulder belt tensioner going off, with an auto manufacturer executive strapped in, well it doesn't get much better than that, filmwise. Rollovers are slow, compared to head on collisions. Air bags would be of limited value, since they deflate almost immediately after use.
Earle
Actually, it does have a sun roof... Surprisingly, it didn't break...
Nice, I just looked again and the sunroof doesn't even look scratched! Its hard looking at that wreck as it looks exactly like my 2000 JGC Limited, but with different wheels.
Brandonb
Grumman-581 wrote:
Wow, it held up MUCH better than I thought it would have from your description!!
Yes, its totaled. Its a unibody.
-jenn
It looks a bit worse in person... Or maybe it just looks worse when it is *your* Jeep...
Oh well... Probably going to replace it with a VW Jetta TDI (diesel) then... Acceptable acceleration, roomy enough for her, great fuel consumption, and most importantly, more difficult to roll...
Yikes. That's scary. 5mph? I think something went majorly wrong in the car's design.
Unless something else also happened in that 5mph test that made the sensor think it was going two to three times as fast...
In article , L.W.(Bill) Hughes III wrote: #
In article , Earle Horton wrote: #One thing I learned in EMT class, is that the way to get killed in a #rollover, is by being ejected from the vehicle. The original purpose of #seat belts was to keep people inside the vehicle, where ninety-nine times #out of a hundred it is safer, than flying out the window. Later, after they #figured out that people were hitting their heads on the dash, padded #dashboard and shoulder belts were added. Even later, when they figured out #that some people would always refuse to do what was good for them, air bags #and automatic tightening shoulder belts were added. If you have ever seen #the film clip, of a pyrotechnic shoulder belt tensioner going off, with an #auto manufacturer executive strapped in, well it doesn't get much better #than that, filmwise. Rollovers are slow, compared to head on collisions. #Air bags would be of limited value, since they deflate almost immediately #after use. # #Earle
So they may not have deployed even if they were there.
Kinda makes sense. When I got left hanging upside down, it felt slow. I thought it was fight/flight stress reflex making me think time had slowed. Maybe it was slowly turning over.
/herb
In article , Grumman-581 wrote: #On Wed, 10 May 2006 05:23:45 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@urusei.net (Herb Leong) #wrote: #> It is lucky that you two did not get a sun roof. It would have #> been a extra source of glass chunks and a extra entry point for #> other bits and chunks to go flying in from. # #Actually, it does have a sun roof... Surprisingly, it didn't break...
I took another look at your pics and, wow. That is surprising. When I did not see a hole on the roof I just thought it did not have a sun roof.
That glass is not normal window glass, from the caved in/pushed out ones that I have seen. I saw one that was pulled/kicked out half way on a honda on the way to work. The car was otherwise intact and was doing the speed limit. That got some heads turned.
/herb
You got that right!
My wife's '99 TJ and her sister's loaded V8 & leather Grand Cherokee have nearly identical mileage and conditions. The TJ is worth ~ $1000 more on every web appraiser I've tried.
Compare the prices of the two vehicles when new, and it's apparent the GC owner is getting creamed.
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