Re: Tire Rotation

And I guess there are stupid people out there that would believe a tire manufacturer would knowingly advise people to rotate their tires in a way that would cause the tires to fail, possibly killing them. How many dead people do you know that still buy tires?

A real rocket scientist you are!

Laugh away, dumb s*it. I've been cross-rotating for years and have never had a tire problem. In fact, I get excellent mileage from a set of tires due to properly rotating them.

That lack of maintenance on top of Ford's already low recommended tire pressure wasn't a good combo.

Ford has stock rims but replacement tires, no idea what the offset is, TJ has aftermarket wheels with 4" backspacing.You know full well TJ *factory* wheels don't have zero offset.

Well, I guess if you are smarter than the Jeep engineers and with a name like bllsht you can get away with anything you type.

Mike

bllsht wrote:

Page 22-4 of my '97 TJ's Mopar factory service manual specifically recommends cross-rotating and shows a diagram for cross-rotating tires. When referring to Fig.6 on page 22-4 showing a cross-rotation pattern, the Jeep factory service manual says "The suggested method of tire rotation is (Fig. 6). Other rotation methods can be used, but they will not provide all the tire longevity benefits."

At least the BFG, Goodyear, and Michelin's tire rotation patterns I use are similar and all three of those brands recommend cross-rotation.

Jerry

Mike Roma> Well, I guess if you are smarter than the Jeep engineers and with a name

So I heard from Matt earlier in the thread.

Does DC have monetary interests in tire companies?

I don't believe AMC did, and they wrote my manuals.

Lon's also recommends front to back, wonder what he drives.

The best advise is to follow the owners manual and cross if it says to until you have tread separation like happened on our Cherokee when the previous owner obviously followed the tire makers recommendation and left me stuck with the result. I found the problem before it killed my wife at least.

S*it Jerry, there have been 'tons' of complaints about the death wobble and lots of times it is an out of round tire causing it. At least the Jeep has the courtesy to shake you off the road before the tire explodes.....

Mike

Jerry Bransford wrote:

Might have something to do with today's tires being better engineered, etc. then when your trucks were manufactured. Was it your Hercules tire that blew

It 'could' have been a defective tire, but I was informed that the tires had been freshly rotated so I figure a spade is a spade and the shop used the tire makers way.

It happens 'way' too often for me to think they are all just defects. I mean think of how many times you read here that the 'death wobble' was caused by a 'defective' tire.....

Mike

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:

Cross-rotating radials definitely used to be a big problem which is why so many still persist in saying cross-rotating them is a bad idea. But that hasn't been a problem in many years since radial tire manufacturers figured out they were using bias-ply tire manufacturing techniques that weren't compatible with the newer radial tires. Since they all abandoned the old manufacturing methods, and again this has been many years now, there have been no problems cross-rotating radial tires like there used to be. No jive, no rumor. :)

Jerry

Mike Roma> It 'could' have been a defective tire, but I was informed that the tires

Do I understand you prefer the Hercules Terra Trac ATs to the BFG ATs?

With the size difference taken into the equation, yes.

The narrower 225's performed a lot better than the new 235's.

Mike

Billy Ray wrote:

What about the tread design, the Hercules tires have a lot more siping for water and ice traction?

It was ready to go, then....