TJ factory Tube Steps

Dec 13, 2003 10 Replies

Hi folks, Since my new 04 TJ didn't come with side steps, I ordered a set through the dealer to simply entry/exit for my 5' tall wife.



Problem 1: Parts guy tells me the "regular" TJ steps won't fit on Rubicon. OK, so I order the "tubular" steps -- a bit more expensive, but I figured they'd add a bit of protection the regular steps would not. So the steps arrive today...



Problem 2: the packaging is over 6 feet long and won't fit in the TJ for transport home. No prob... I remove the steps and toss the box in the trash at the dealer. So I get them home and start the install...



Problem 3: "Remove the 8mm bolts from the body in the rear of the front wheel well". Body?! That's right, my new MOPAR tub steps attach to the body, not the frame!



Problem 4: "Drill two 3/8 holes in the body..." What?! My new Mopar steps require that I drill giant holes in the body?!



OK, so, getting to the point a last: I trashed the package, so like as not I can't return the steps. Just how stupid is putting on tublar side steps that bolt to the body rather than the frame. The way I see it I'm losing 6" of ground clearance under the door and risking damaging the body unnessarily [on a rock] that might otherwise not have touched the TJ at all. Had it just been a bolt-on deal, I might have done it anyway, but with the drilling... I just can't help but think this is a mistake and I should quit while I'm ahead.



Thoughts?


I think you are correct.

Those steps are usually the first thing that gets ripped off on a TJ.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Laegl>

Take them to a local welder, they can cut off the ends and put a 1/2' plate with gussets and holes in the plate. Tell him what you want and that you want them to fit on your frame not the body.

I built my own set and have a complete shop with welder but, I did not use the method I described above. What I did was to make them removable. I fabricated the tubes without the mounting plate and I made the mounting plate with a one foot straight tube tail that slides into the tube. Then I drilled a 5/8' hole straight through both pipes marked the frame and used

1/2" sst bolts to mount the feet. Slid the hole works together and installed the bolts.

The cost of the pipe and welded elbows cost less than $100.00 including the rustoleum paint.

Here is a link to a pic of the bars:

twaldr> Try and take them back without the box. Get some better steps/rocker

Ya, that's one of the drawbacks to a lot of the Mopar stuff. Looks good, and works well for everyday use, but often not practical for actual offroad use. Don't install them if you are looking for protection IMO. But if you are simply looking for a nerf bar to provide a step for your wife, they are fine.

If you need protection *and* a step, Tomken makes a good 2x4 rocker skid that can support the weight of the vehicle (i.e. you can use it as a jack point if need be). I didn't really want mine that wide, so I opted for their 2x2 version. Also, someone mentioned Boulderbars which are good as well. Probably stronger even, as they mount to the frame using three points instead of two. They seem to come in 2x2 and 2x3 versions. Obviously the wider one works better as a step...

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Dave

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Hi folks, Since my new 04 TJ didn't come with side steps, I ordered a set

Thanks guys, for confirming my reservations. I undid what part of the install I'd started and they're now sittin' on the garage floor. Considering what I paid for 'em, I think I'll order a set of vanity liscense plates tomorrow:

1 IDIOT.

Ahh, don't be so hard on yourself.

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Let us do it for you. >:-)

On 13 Dec 2003 01:31 PM, David C. Moller posted the following:

I'm partial to my Turbo City side bars. They mount directly to the frame in 3 locations. The worst thing that I've bashed with them so far is a log, but they look like they'd do fine in the rocks. Looks like their website is closed for revision but here is the URL in any case:

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The least they could have done is to post a phone number to contact them by. Oh well, here is a product review with pictures and their contact info:
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---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:

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At least they weren't steelhorse... ;-)

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

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