Where you at that you can buy a Diesel Kia (and spell tire the way you do:) ? I'd love to have something like that, but here Mercedes and VW are about the only passenger car Diesels you can buy. While I'm at it, I've been thinking about a new Rio. We have the Cash for Clunker program where you can get up to a $4500 voucher for trading a gas guzzler in on a new fuel efficient car. I've got a junk 84 Delta 88 that should easily qualify. Any opinions on the Rio, and what they might sell for in the US? All I am looking for is auto trans, a/c and possibly cd. Thanks Larry BTW, I'm in S. Texas so good a/c is the most important thing on a car to me. To me. if the a/c is no good, the car is no good. Kia a/c good? If the program is still on(it has been extremely successful and is about out of money) and I can get one at a price I like, I will try to rent one for a weekend and try it out. Thanks again!