anyone off to Eastnor

I'll tell Ang that one tonight! Brilliant. It will almost certainly be a last minute decision whether we go or not but if the weathers going to be like this then we're off, all being well.

With regards to the caravan, i'll call in and see the crumblies to see if they mind us using the caravan and have a look if there's a sound proof in which to put child in case of excess noise.

Quite looking forward to it now (Eastnor, not father hood)

We will see what they say this evening

Cheers

Dave

|| In message || "Richard Brookman" wrote: || ||| Dave R wrote: ||| ||||| will do, I don't want to go to the hassle of having twin electric ||||| sockets put on the rangir (the shame) then everyone think I own ||||| one even when I'm not towing one!! ||||| ||||| Dave ||| ||| You can tow a caravan quite happily with the 12N socket alone. All ||| you would miss would be fog and reversing lights (I think), plus a ||| power supply to the caravan fridge. If you're not touring and you ||| have an electric hookup at the far end of the journey, it's hardly ||| a problem. ||| || || 12N electics have the fog light: || ||

I stand (or sit) corrected. The 12S socket gives you the reversing light (not a legal requirement AIUI) and the 12v supply to charge the caravan battery. If you're only going for a weekend, the caravan battery will probably last you. If you have a 12v TV in there as well, maybe not... One spare would be more than enough.

Thing with newborns is, they are pretty easy in the first few months. They go everywhere with you and do everything you do. As long as you have fuel for one end (draught is obviously easier than bottled) and the means to keep the other end in reasonable order, you just carry on as normal. It's when they get a mind of their own that they start to restrict you.

Me no want see nother landy, me bored, me want ICE CREAM!!! (5 yrs) Me no want see nother landy, me bored, me want BACARDI BREEZER!!! (16 yrs)

You get the picture.

|| At 2 weeks old they only wake for about 30 minutes at a time to eat, || pee, moan and then back to sleep again. A bit like being 15 || really....

Or 52 and on holiday...

At least I will be able to relate to it..................

Excellent!!!

After speaking to the ol' boy he seems to think that it's "all to do with pin 7"..... Obviously

It transpires, although i didn't ask for clarification that pin 7 on the vehicle socket can either run a fog light or can go towards charging the caravan battery. He says that the battery that they have will easily last a couple of evenings lights and TV watching. So if I bring a spare we should be sorted for sure.

Permission to borrow the caravan itself is also allowed. oh, and the fridge is gas!

Dave

On 10 May 2006 12:52:58 -0700, "Dave R" scribbled the following nonsense:

november 3rd supposedly, though swmbo thinks more like the 25th....... Wont know for certain till we have the scan

On Thu, 11 May 2006 17:41:31 +0100, "Richard Brookman" scribbled the following nonsense:

you're rapidly putting me off the idea of kids........

Simon Isaacs wrote:

|| On Thu, 11 May 2006 17:41:31 +0100, "Richard Brookman" || scribbled the following nonsense: || ||| beamendsltd wrote: ||| ||||| In message ||||| "Richard Brookman" wrote: ||||| |||||| Dave R wrote: |||||| |||||||| will do, I don't want to go to the hassle of having twin |||||||| electric sockets put on the rangir (the shame) then everyone |||||||| think I own one even when I'm not towing one!! |||||||| |||||||| Dave |||||| |||||| You can tow a caravan quite happily with the 12N socket alone. |||||| All you would miss would be fog and reversing lights (I think), |||||| plus a power supply to the caravan fridge. If you're not |||||| touring and you have an electric hookup at the far end of the |||||| journey, it's hardly a problem. |||||| ||||| ||||| 12N electics have the fog light: ||||| |||||

Nah, they're great. It's just that, like marriage, the first 30 years are the worst.

Nah. "Pass me a 10mm spanner" "Yes Daddy do you want a ring, open or socket ? ".... Works for me.

Steve

Bring them up different - get them properly interested. I took my 12 year old son to an engineering trade show recently. After he'd come out with such gems as "Dad, if you buy that lathe Mum will go apeshit" and telling a salesman "That milling machine is crap - you can hear the spindle bearings rumble even though it's brand new" I was beginning to have second thoughts about his prescence.

Then we got to one of the welding equipment stands. They had an area set up where you could have a play with the welders - after much "Dad, can I have a go with their welder" I managed to convince a salesman that I was interested in buying a MIG for junior so they let him have a play (expecting to get a decent laugh out of it). After he'd run some decent looking welds (he's been using my MIG since he was 8) I left him there for the afternoon - they had him demonstratng their machines whilst saying "These are so good it's child's play to weld". He went home with a free MIG torch and automatic welding helmet for his efforts, and I had to stump up to buy him his own MIG. He's now taken over half my shed and is busily making a set of wrought iron gates for the neighbours, and has ideas of making his fortune before he leaves school. He has a plan to start building trailers so I can see he will be spending the next summer hols at welding school getting his certification. And for his birthday he wants.... a fire extinguisher!

And even then, + / - a fortnight. Charlotte was winched out (the medical term is venteuse, but it's basically a Dyson combined with whichever midwife has the biggest forearms) 10 days overdue...

Based upon my experience learning to weld in Dad's shed when I was young, I'd buy him the extinguisher NOW :)

Dad was smart enough to have a dry powder unit close by where I was working, I'd put the fire out before too much damage was done by the fire. Now the damage done by the dry powder, that took a while longer to put right ...

Karen

There's 3 extinguishers in the shed already - I didn't spend 6 years as a career firefighter and not learn about the value of such things. And I didn't get through my apprenticeship without a couple of unexpected episodes of incineration where fire supression equipment proved it's value. Young David has already had a fairly extensive play with extinguishers courtesy of my ex-colleagues and says he wants to be a fireman - which is NOT going to happen.

in article snipped-for-privacy@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com, Dave R at snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk wrote on 11/5/06 4:31 pm:

They only let you go 10 days over the due date, so your baby will have arrived by June 2nd at the very latest...or tomorrow or next week. I've got four children and three of them arrived two weeks early and the other one a week.

Hopefully!

No harm in trying.

On or around Thu, 11 May 2006 16:24:17 +0100, "Richard Brookman" enlightened us thusly:

Fogs are on the 12N socket. reversing lights are on the 12S, yes, and auxiliary supplies and so forth.

Make sure you secure the 12S plug properly on the van, though - dragging them down the road doesn't improve the plug.

On or around Thu, 11 May 2006 21:53:14 +0100, "Richard Brookman" enlightened us thusly:

and it does give you a perfect excuse to buy ice cream for yerself at the same time.

On or around Thu, 11 May 2006 22:01:13 +0100, Steve enlightened us thusly:

Excellent, glad to see you're bringing 'em up proper-like.

How's the young'un coming on? 'twas yours that was in for chassis repairs, nesspar?

On or around Fri, 12 May 2006 12:46:28 +1200, EMB enlightened us thusly:

meany. The world needs people who want to be firemen. I have much admiration for 'em, most esepcially the volunteers...

I'd have thought a towing hitch would be useful too, unless you steel braid the cable...:)

Stuart