With the recent talk here about modifications and insurance, I wondered if there is any authority which can pronounce that the mods you have done are "street legal" ?
By the time I have rebuilt the 101 Ambi with power steering, air bags and a new engine, the insurers might get sniffy unless its all formally inspected.
Who would do it ?
Steve
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Austin Shackles
On or around Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:39:21 +0100, Steve Taylor enlightened us thusly:
a qualified automotive engineer. Sometimes MOT stations will do these inspections as well. You'd need an inspection report for the PAS and the engine in any case.
Airbags? WTF for?
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steve Taylor
Suspension levelling.
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David G. Bell
Flotation?
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Lee_D
Thats radically altered my vision... of course if it had been Martyn......
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Steve Taylor
Up, up and away in my bloody big purple balloon....
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Gaza
Before i became qualified - i used the local MOT station, back then they just charged me for 2 MOT's.
Gary
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Austin Shackles
On or around Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:49:02 +0100, steve Taylor enlightened us thusly:
ah. I thought you were putting them in the cab.
in either case, they'll need inspecting an' all.
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steve Taylor
Worrabout using bags instead of a leaf on the suspension, to make it more compliant off road ?
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Austin Shackles
On or around Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:48:39 +0100, steve Taylor enlightened us thusly:
why not just go the whole hog, and have full air suspension? If you're going to the trouble of installing an air system anyway...
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steve Taylor
Do-able ???? More practical than the straight 8 Tdi Austin. I figured the single leaf would still provide the guidance for the axles, but the bags the load bearing.
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Larry
Indeed there are such systems available for camper conversions, but if you want to be truly off the wall go for a hydraulic system and have a dancing landie :)
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Austin Shackles
On or around Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:50:31 +0100, steve Taylor enlightened us thusly:
The air suspension on the back of the LDV chassis is done with what looks like a single leaf cut off behind the axle, and the airbag between that and the chassis. The single leaf thus becomes a trailing link, referred to in the documentation as a "flexi link" (!). It also has a panhard rod fitted. It also uses an electric compressor, air tank and a simple ECU for height adjustment.
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Steve Taylor
I wonder how it is for lateral stability ? I think something needs triangulating.
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GbH
Would the Panhard rod not do that?
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Austin Shackles
On or around Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:29:25 +0100, Steve Taylor enlightened us thusly:
that's what the panhard rod is for. Effectively, it's like a
90/110/RR/disco front end, only facing the other way. The "flexi links" provide for fore-an-aft location and articulation and the air springs provide for springing and the panhard rod provides for lateral location.
Looks pretty simple, actually. The only thing about a panhard rod is that it's inferior to the A-frame on the back of the RR etc. where larger articulation is required. Ideally, you'd want long trailing arms which have
2 mountings to the chassis, one at the edge and one in the middle of the vehicle, I reckon.
That would require more work than the panhard rod, though. The one on the LDV is fairly obviosuly a factory-fit conversion of the normal leaf spring system - the first one I actually saw was on a chassis-cab, and at the time I thought it was indeed a conversion - twas only later that I discovered that it was a factory option.
Might look into this for the minibus. It'd ride better, I bet. Might be simpler and cheaper to fit lighter springs, though, if they're available.
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