L200's - Towing how do they compare to Discos 200's and 300's?

Forget landies, Nothing tows like a stretch limo, not even a gypos transit :)

Must have poor Gypos where you come from round here they drive anything "top of the range"as long as it doesn't belong to them.No need for towing as they just burn there caravans out and move on! Much easier i suppose to nick a new one.

Adrian Ford

On or around Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:12:50 +0100, "Lee_D" enlightened us thusly:

your local vendor is an arse. They probably want you to buy the shiney pickup.

IME, towing a big trailer: the 110 was better at it than the disco. disco too soft on the suspension, combined with short wheelbase and long overhang, too much body movement = more weaving. Not tried it behind the series III, (I imagine that manoeuvring it will be next-to-impossible) but I daresay it will tow it fine, albeit so slowly that weave will not be an issue...

The long wheelbase will make it nice and stable, I should think, and they run on cart-springs at the back, so I doubt it'll roll and cause problems like the disco does. Mind, I reckon the double-cab nipponese ones have a turning circle about the same as a series 109, albeit that power steering would make it less work.

This is one way in which the disco scores: it's excellent for reversing. In an ideal world, I'd have a disco for going backwards and a 110 or even a 130 for going forwards.

never likely to find out if the 6WD 4WS disco 100/140 would be better. Probably be a fantastic big-trailer tow unit, in fact. You want I should make you one? or a 90/130 LR?

Sounds about right!

Hi Lee, my father in law has one (a warrior) & he tows a bloody big caravan. He rates it highly, stability is good but steering lock is shocking. I have driven it a few times & it feels pretty decent to drive. It's not got full time 4wd btw.

Can't agree there - Discovery mirrors are hopeless for revesring....

Richard

On or around Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:34:38 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd enlightened us thusly:

well, yeah, but it has windows. and you can tweak the mirrors from within, to move the view a bit. But in terms of the ability to push the trailer around, it knocks spots off the 110. Not tried a 90, but the shorter wheelbase and better turning circle are prolly offset by the very short rear overhang, in terms of trailer-pushing.

Cheers Nige,

I'm planning for my mid life crisis. I did think I was having one a few months back but I think it was just the shock of getting paint on all the cars and filling the 101 with fuel.

I can cope with part time 4x4, I noticed that looking at the brochure I picked up no mention of a centre locking diff but a switchable rear diff which seems to make a little more sense to me given if you've not normally got locking diffs (front and rear on a landie then your stuffed anyway (sooner or later).

I have to say I'm tempted. Depreciation is a concern and also longevity... but I may be able to get one clean spot on the drive way. All this is way off yet, I like to test the water properly first and having seen photos of a new L200 on the club site I have to say the new version does nowt for me. The current version however has kerb appeal... at least to me anyway. (Like I said... mid life crisis pending!)

Lee D

Can't speak with too much authority on them, but I suspect they are similar to my old (1998) Shogun in as much as you have a central diff lock and a rear axle lock to give you effectively 3 wheel drive. My Old shogun, and my new one are both extremely capable off road (latest one less so now due to extremely fat alloys) and have no reason to suspect otherwise of a L200.

The best endorsement I can give is this, in my line of work, I see a lot of farmers, at one time they only have landrovers, now they seem equally split between Landys and L200s. Esp. at sales you can see it, the fields are full of L200s. That speaks volumes to me since they need to be rugged, reliable, cost effective & practical for farmers to touch them. As for longevity, if a farmer can't kill them then they must be ok. Personally speaking, I'm on my third shogun and haven't a bad word to say, they have never let me down and have always been easy to sell and good to run.

As for re-sale on an L200, I don't imagine it would be too bad, for the basic reasons that there are enough around (i.e. not an also-ran), they are ever popular (esp. with youff) and don't seem to date very much, lets face it their design hasn't changed much in years.

What I will say is try to get one that has been chipped. Mitsubishi are chipping them themselves these days. The early ones were around 120hp and quite flat, not great for towing. Later on Mitsubishi started chipping them (as factory fit option) to 145hp which was a great improvement.

Before I get flamed for owning a shogun, mine current one is commercial. I bought it for three reasons, 1. Its practical and not too big, don't need lwb. 2. its comfortable enough to be used as an everyday vehicle and to go out in (my only vehicle at the time). 3. The engine was the best diesel regarding economy and performance that I had tried in any vehicle esp as standard without chipping etc.

(dons flame suit)

Graham

No flames from me and thanks for the input. I think I've pretty much decided on an L200, will of course be keeping 3 Landrover products but fancy a change.

I would even consider buying new given I intent to keep it for 10 years or more.... only thing that kind of puts me off is this.....

Lee D

On or around Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:17:20 +0100, "Lee_D" enlightened us thusly:

Jesus Christ in a boat.

yebbut, so does fungus.

seriously, though, the only valid reason if there is one for buying new is to offset against tax in some way. Buy one a year old with say 15K miles on it, and it's as near new as makes no odds and you don't get the worst bit of the depreciation. I dunno how it stands with L200s, but it should be easy enough to research. If that's a new model in the last month or three, then there should be a nice crop of 1-y-o ones coming in as people who have to have the latest one go out and buy it.

F*ok knows who whould? That is trury horrible! Mind you, I'm starting to 'warm' to the D3 now you see so many!

The one LR i thought i would like on paper but looks horrible from behind is the RR sport. It's gonna date real quick if you ask me!

Nige

-- Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"

It's a facelift classic from every which way I look at it (Rangie sport)... almost a step back in design but one I actually like. I prefer the Classis style to that of the New Rangie.. The Sport would be my choice if money were no object.

Now when the new defender sports 101 design concepts then Landrover will be singing my song...preferably with air con though. ;0)

Lee D

On or around Sat, 20 Aug 2005 00:09:52 +0100, "SiK" enlightened us thusly:

bet it's not a 3-pointer in a SIII LWB.