Re: OT: any ebay shops sellers here? (longish)

Had this today from our "friends" at eBay. I've added below what I sent to

> them just now on the contact form... > > Basically, the gist is that eBay shops will be less effective and cost more, > AFAICS. > > Anyway, here goes: > -------- > From eBay International > ----- > Changes to Shops Listings (SIF) Visibility > > It's vitally important - to your business and ours - that we maintain a > healthy balance between listing formats on the eBay marketplace. From 2nd > August 2006 we will be reducing the visibility of Shops Listings (also known > as Shops Inventory Format Listings or SIF) in the main search results on > eBay.co.uk. As it stands at the moment, Shops Listings are displayed at the > end of all Search and Browse results. After the change, Shops Listings will > still be displayed in the main search results but only when the main site > has returned a small number of relevant items. > > Fee Changes > > From 22nd August 2006, we're also making some changes to Shop Inventory > Fees, Featured Plus! Fees and fees related to the Mobile Phones with > Contracts category. > > Please read our Information Page for further information on these changes. > ==>
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> Thank you for your Business > > We recognise that these changes will impact many of you and will mean that > you'll need to make adjustments to ensure that you can take advantage of > these new circumstances. The changes we have announced today have not been > entered into lightly; we have taken time and effort to ensure that we are > making the right decisions to ensure the long term health and vibrancy of > the eBay marketplace. We believe that these changes are vital to ensure that > the thousands of sellers who rely on eBay for a living or a significant > second income can continue to prosper. > > We know that as a seller you have a choice of outlets through which to sell > your products. We appreciate that you choose eBay. > > ---------------------- > My message to eBay: > ----- > I see there are impending changes to eBay shops. Despite the protestations > that our business is important to you, in my view the changes are all > negative: > > 1) reduced visibility of shop item listings. Since these listings were > always listed after regular auction items, the auction items already get > priority over shop items. So why the change? I see that shop items will be > listed if the search results show only a "few items". What is "few"? 10? > 20? 50? 200? For any remotely common item, the shop item listings will > never be displayed. > > 2) Increased listing fees: e.g. for the items I typically list, the regular > listing fees are to be trebled. > > 3) Increased final value fees: a £50 item has its FV fee put up by just over > 19%, plus an additional 0.25% up to £500. I would imagine that covers the > vast majority of shop items. If these changes only apply to shop listings > and not to every listing, that makes it even worse! > > As a seller, all these changes are unwelcome. To cover the increase in > fees, I will have to increase my item prices, and even then my items will be > much less visible. I can't see how this will help me sell any more, and it > makes the whole eBay shop scheme less attractive to sellers. > > As a buyer, I buy from both auctions and shop listings depending on what I > want and the relative prices. If the shop items are not visible, I'm not > likely to go and search for them specially. If there was a prominent "show > shop items" button, I'd click it. > ------------ >

They'd already put the fees up a few months back, hence we pulled our eBay shop. They didn't seem to care then, so I don't see them worrying about it now.

Richard

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beamendsltd
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On or around Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:02:49 +0100, beamendsltd enlightened us thusly:

had a meaningless reply from them. I doubt they'll care a flying ufkc if I pull mine, either - but then again, if they swing it too much against shops everyone will bail and I reckon that will hurt 'em. The people doing big business with a shop will be paying a lot more extra than I am, ferexample, or even than you were.

They say you should offer a mixture of auction, BiN and shop items. Yeah, right. with, of course, more fees. And the stuff I'm selling in the shop listing isn't stuff I want to sell by auction anyway. I could list it as BiN only, of course. at extra expense.

Hmmm. wonder if I can list things as 4.99 plus 85 quid post and packing? I bet they'd pull it...

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Austin Shackles

Actually, just did that with a model helicopter from Hong Kong - I was expecting it, costs me 1 GBP + 65 p+p

Steve

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Steve Taylor

did it actually come from hong kong? there is quite a bit of stuff on there at £1 + £50+ P+P. i was wondering if the 'hong kong' location was just to keep ebay happy while avoiding as many fees as they can?

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Tom Woods

On or around Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:26:19 +0200, Matthew Maddock enlightened us thusly:

as did I. I've yet to see a credible reason for the changes. and almost any search except for very rare items returns more than 30 items - not least because most people don't actually search that far: I don't myself, mostly. I refine the search until I get a reasonable number of what I'm interested in on the first page, then scroll through looking at 'em, and I only refine the search further if there's a high percentage of irrelevant stuff.

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Austin Shackles

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