4.0 Cherokee Engine Noise

Even if it is £500 - the engine is knackered and the existing owner probably knows what is wrong and fainted at the repair quote. It's difficult to say how long it will last. It depends on how long it has been like that. Don't buy it because it's cheap and runs on LPG. A diesel car will give better economy than LPG when you work out the costs. LPG is like half the price for half the distance so it's not that good, especially not with price hikes and hardly any garages selling it now. You could hire a large van for less than £500 if you just want to move house.

Other people have trouble with the Jeep, you should at least try Google first, then look on YouTube.

We have a P reg 4.0 LTD as the works mule. Apparently, the water pumps are the weakpoint (ours has done similar=20 miles) and cost about =A31300 from Jeep. This was advised by my bosses=20 back street mechanic mate who checked it over after buying.

They aren't much cheaper for a pattern one, but can be rebuilt.

On diesels it is the diesel pump that goes, and not surprisingly costs=20 similar to the water pump on the petrol (one weak point, one big price).

Ours was fine, only weakness was the steering has a little play, but the=20 adjuster is seized, and it has a little too much weight over centre, so=20 it may be over adjusted as it is. Still well within the MOT tolerances=20 though. Just a little weird compared to rack and pinion steering.

And yes, it is comfy, all leather, and soft suspension is nice.

--=20 Carl Robson Audio stream:

'Rob', you're a knowledgeless prick who should have been strangled at birth. You know f*ck all.

at 500 quid just take a chance. it will make 150 weighed in for scrap

Scrap is £170 a tonne at the moment. I got £131 for a Pug 106 the other day (couldn't be bothered fixing it). The LPG kit would probably fetch a couple of hundred.

then it (scrap) has almost doubled in the last few months as I got 80 quid for a metro with some extra scrap in the back about 6 or 8 months ago ! even better though, as the jeep must be a couple of tons or a fraction more, and as you say the lpg kit is worth sensible money so it is worth 500 as a scrapper, I'll bet it would break well through ebay as well.

Yup. even softer than my old Celsior. And you know how much that wallowed. Ours isn't raised but it does seem higher than some of the others I've seen arround.

Cheers Chaps. I'll take a chance. It runs ok, the noise seems to have got quieter the last day or so strangely. The rest of it's in that good condition I'd be tempted to find a decent engine for it when it finally dies.

Mike P

That doesn't sound good, the S**te Old Diesel Cherokee we've got is stiff as anything. Ridiculously so, the 4.0 we had last year was the same.

I've just towed a 25ft boat behind the turbo Rangie and it honestly didn't feel like there was anything behind. Slight increase in exhaust note, but even the induction noise sounded as normal. Astonishingly good tow car.

Wranglers tend to be soft & bounce all over the place.

The one I've got is pretty stiff. It bounces over bumps but if you set it up for bends properly, it actually corners quite well for what it is, not much roll at all..

Mike P

Seconded. I tend to be quite easygoing with people but whenever there's a post that seems top know what it's talking about but which I know from my own experience is plain wrong, I look at the name.

For the last month or so *every* time it's been 'Rob'.

He's either a subtle troll or an idiot.

Hey, what's wrong with both :-)

Nothing, but he's always on about LPG costing half as much but the engine using twice as much. It's just complete bollocks. I drove a 1.8 Vectra estate to Glasgow a couple of weeks ago, four up, average motorway speeds, 220 miles each way, and it cost the grand total of £28 in LPG. The car averaged 35 mpg (on gas), on petrol that would have cost a minimum of £60.

Yet the gobshite still disagrees.

There is that, even for the roll, I don't corner at town speeds much slower than in the Saab.

I'd advise against flushing it, especially as it has done a fairly high mileage. It could dislodge crap, shellac type flakes etc, which might then block oilways. Safer to leave the crap stuck where it is, where it isn't doing any harm. Mike.

LOL not one French car in that lot, makes for an interesting read.... especially as the hybrids/eco friendly cars are costlier. Obviously only at the moment and given some time their production costs will come down and make them more competitive against the IC cars.

Pete M where is the original of that article? I'd like to see if it is just cost to the consumer or includes manufacturig costs too.

-- Chris

It definitely isn't the cost to the consumer - that's the entire point of it :-)

Original is here:

The answer is of course to run vehicles for as long as possible. Bonus points for getting a vehicle which would otherwise be scrapped for easily-fixed reasons.

cheers, clive

And their energy costs for scrapping cars seem to be an order of magnitude higher than making them in the 1st place.