Changing a rad.

The rad on my E39 BMW started leaking. Just by the top hose - so at first I thought it was only that. All the hoses are original and the car's '97 ;-)

The rad is ally, with plastic end tanks. Difficult to see where the actual leak was from as there is a plate on the top which holds the separate header tank in place and it's from underneath that.

Phoned my local independant BMW specialist when the leak started a couple of weeks ago and they said 500-600 to change it depending on the actual rad price. So decided to wait for slightly better weather to DIY.

Got the rad out in half an hour. (Had the correct tools for removing the fan plus viscous coupling.)

Discovered one of the rubber blocks it sits on missing - and I've had the car from 1 year old, so it looks like it left the factory like this.

New rad from EuroCarParts 115 quid. Rubber block from BMW 12 quid - won't arrive until tomorrow.

Can't see it taking any longer to fit than remove so let's say 2 hours total including filling and bleeding? Which makes the quote something like 400 quid plus for labour? Including discount for an older car...

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)
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It's the BMW tax ....

And an older car is always more difficulty to work on (more things break unexpectedly) so there will be a surcharge for an older vehicle.

Reply to
Graham J

No it's not.

No they don't

There's a DISCOUNT at BMW for older vehicles as Dave said. Did you even read his post?

Reply to
Mike P

Agreed there is often more room on older cars

They do in my experience; older plastic gets brittle, bolts are more likely to be rusted (and perhaps have rounded heads).

Reply to
newshound

Given this is the first time the rad's been out, how do you work that out?

If I ever come across 'rounded heads' I replace the bolts.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

BMW may indeed offer a discount for older cars; but even with less sophisticated technology I would expect an older car to be more difficult to work on, for the reasons that I and others have alluded to.

Yes I did read the OP - my (tongue-in-cheek) suggestion was that BMW artificially inflated their prices to the level that their customers migh expect to pay, so that even with a discount they made enough money to cover their costs.

You have to factor in the carpeted showrooms and air-conditioned workshops!

Reply to
Graham J

critcher said........... my repairs came to nearly £800.00 brake cables £275.00 welding £90.00 check for airbag light £40.00 air bag ecu...£140.000 to fit, £160.00 for spare MOT £54.00 after a bit of an argument bill dropped to £186.00 without airbag ecu fitting The impression I had was that the workshops had a target value for each repair of £500.00 which covered costs and overheads.

Reply to
critcher

Define "difficult". Sure, there may be the odd seized/rounded fastener, but the chances are that everything will be a lot more accessible. You never used to hear of all these huge access/dismantling issues doing such basic shit as replacing bulbs.

Reply to
Adrian

Err, no. I referred to my independant BMW specialist. Not a main dealer.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

Basically, the more things that are added to the basics of a car, the more complex they become to work on, as more has to be dismantled to access the basics. (enough basics?)

The E39 - at least in 6 cylinder form - is reasonably easy to work on, for the things I've had to do so far. Most involved was changing the rocker cover gasket. Which was many times more complicated to do than changing one on my SD1.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Because I wasn't talking about your specific case, I was just saying that in my experience older cars are more likely to have the three issues which I mentioned.

Reply to
newshound

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