fiesta 05 third stop light not working

yes it is, but I need it mended tomorrow morning before 10am so I won't have time to take it to the dealer!

snipped-for-privacy@cruisin-by.co.uk (" snipped-for-privacy@cruisin-by.co.uk" ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

If the side brake lights are working, I wouldn't sweat the central one. Ring the dealer, then if you do get a tug (VERY unlikely) you can refer plod to them.

Anyway - is the rear wiper working? Number plate lights? Is the power fed via a conduit by the hinges (broken wire) or contacts in the shut (mucky contacts).

Most dealers open at 0800 hours.

Can't imagine why you *need* it working either.

I wouldn't worry, as you already have two brake lights, as long as they both are working that is all the law requires The odd thing is for an MOT if it's not working at all it's not a fail but if one LED or bulb in the high level cluster is out is out it will be a fail. more logic from the MOT manual!

Des

T'other way round, Shirley?

Additional stop lamps Any additional stop lamps fitted and connected must be tested. Where extra lamps are fitted and there is doubt as to whether they are connected, the benefit of this doubt should be given to the presenter

High level stop lamps

These are lamps usually fitted in the rear window or boot spoiler of a vehicle and may consist of a number of light sources . The lamp is one unit, so as long as at least one of the light sources illuminates when the brake pedal is pressed the lamp is deemed to be working.

reason for Rejection 1. An obligatory stop lamp missing.

High level not obligatory

Semantics! So that is as clear as mud then

Point taken about one bulb out though!!

Des

It seems perfectly clear to me!

A high level brake light is not obligatory.

If one is fitted, and it can't be shown that it is not connected, it must work.

If it contains multiple light sources, failure of one or more is not a reason for rejection as long as at least one is working.

In other words, the complete opposite of what you had posted ;-)

What is difficult to understand there?

Chris

It used to mention a 'substantial' part not working, most places took that as anything over half not lighting would fail.

Mrcheerful

Now that would have been controversial!

Chris

Having had a discussion with the other testers one would fail with the high level light out and one would pass, He seemed to think that the only two obligatory lights were the two 'normal' ones. So it comes down to how the individual reads the MOT manual. This started when I saw the original post and by coincidence it had been discussed that day during a light check and the tester said It's OK to have the high level out but if a part of it was out he would fail! I never checked the Manual, and it does come down to interpretation. Straw poll of two, not exactly scientific, one for and one against!!

Des

Yebbut have you read the manual in the link I provided?

It is absolutely clear there beyond a shadow of doubt that if fitted it must work, but only one bulb or LED needs to illuminate.

Chris

Yes, I have also read the paper manual and the on-line manual through the MOT computer, they read the same but each MOT tester reads it differently and they all think their interpretation is right. All it proves is the MOT test is not a level playing field and it will be subjective depending on the tester.

We also do trikes and they are a real can of worms and most of the guys back out of the door when one comes in!!

Des

Des