M+S (Mud and Snow) tyres - disadvantages?

Could someone elaborate on the disadvantages of such tyres in all-year use?

Reply to
Hooch
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Depends - if you're looking at all season tyres with M+S rating, they should be OK but aren't that good on snow.

Proper winter tyres with M+S rating with be more noisy and will wear faster when it's warm due to their softer compound.

Reply to
Timo Geusch

Hooch (Hooch ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Worse grip & faster wear in normal tarmac conditions, IME.

Reply to
Adrian

Isn't faster wear usually related to better grip? I thought that softer compounds gave better grip, but resulted in faster wear rate, and vice versa.

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Reply to
David Hearn

Given the same tread pattern, yes. M&S tyres have a very aggressive tread pattern however. They don't really excel at anything, and generally have poor dry grip.

I would only consider using them in a rural situation where some limited off road driving was necessary.

Chris

Reply to
Chris Whelan

Yeah...

I ended up arse-ending two cars on wet days. Absolutely sod all grip in the wet on tarmac.

Reply to
Conor

Only if half of the potential surface area isn't missing because of the wide grooving.

Reply to
Conor

If everything else is the same. Proper snow tyres are silica based rather than rubber, so they're stickier when cold, not so good when hot & wear faster. There's lots of different things you can trade off as well as wear vs grip.

Reply to
Duncan Wood

Noise will be worse. Other than that, careful choice of a reasonable compromise shouldn't lose you too much.

The compound will be harder than pure tarmac compounds, but not excessively so (unless it's some crazy offroad tyre). This also has the slight advantage of good wear mileage, but barely so you'd notice. Unless you go for a particularly hard compound though, you shouldn't have any problem with lack of grip on wet tarmac. As M+S tyres are generally narrower than current fashions, they might even be better.

Reply to
Andy Dingley

Not really much use in London then, given the usual absence of any real winter weather? Apparently only 3% of motorists in the UK use winter tyres.

Reply to
Hooch

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