MOT Advisory Notice

Mar 08, 2008 41 Replies

I didn't know such a thing existed. Is it a conversion, or were they ever available from the factory?

Chris

Yeah...you're a tit. Who is going to get to see these advisories other than VOSA/Plod?

That'd be yes, and yes.

Citroën made this:

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Adrian's is one of these:
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Wow! How were the engine speeds synchronised? Or was it intended to only use the front engine on the road?

The only small-engined 4x4 I've driven is the original Panda; that was amazingly capable.

Chris

Chris Whelan (Chris Whelan ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

The road does the job remarkably well... One engine's pulling harder than the other? No problem - the weaker one just runs at slightly lighter load...

OK.

I guess that the one that's pulling harder is not exactly going to spin the tyres on the rims!

I would love to have a play with one in the dirt; I'm would imagine they are fairly rare.

Chris

Chris Whelan (Chris Whelan ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Umm, with a pair of 12bhp 425cc lumps...

A genuine Sahara is - and *fierce* expensive. £20k for a good 'un. But they're not that good off-road - too heavy, even in the rep that I've been off-road with, with a pair of 652cc Visa engines.

I reckon ours (single engined, the grey one on the 2cv4x4 website) probably weighs in about 700kg - so 150kg more than a normal 2cv.

17mpg, flat out at 55mph, is quite impressive. I wish I knew what it did with it.

It's been a long time since I've seen a 3 year old car with shot sills.

Besides, you've missed my point. The tester has to cover his arse whilst being told by VOSA to "pass and advise". He's not allowed to remove sill covers, so he has to mention that they're there incase of any unfortunate incidents that may happen a couple of months after he passes it.

VOSA are planning on rolling out stop checks with instant fines from September. Plod stops you, looks at the advisory notices then fines you if you've not fixed the car.

So they stop you on the way back from the MOT and you get done for not fixing an advisory?

Something sounds wrong there...

Surely you could only be fined if the advisory has now turned into an 'unroadworthy'?

I had an advisory about my exhaust blowing 2 years ago. It's passed two MOTs *without* an advisory since then. I'd suggest that advisories would need to be a lot more repeatable before any sort of automatic penalty could be applied...

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They even advise "Unable to check seatbelt" if a child safety seat is fitted.

Personally, I think it should be a requirement to present without any child seats fitted.

Chris

Surely an advisory is just that...advisoory?

My A3 passed the last MOT it had when I owned it with 'Rear axle bushes worn but still performing function' or something very like that. That sounds legal to me.

If he can fine you for that he can fine you wheter or not there's an advisory, they don't affect the legality of it's road use.

So these 'advisories' only exist to allow VOSA/Plod to prosecute on non- faults that *may* be faults in the future? And if the non-faults are fixed, I can still expect a knock on the door from Plod for faults that never existed and never will? The non-faults were fixed. The vehicle is

*perfect*. Why not record those 'trivial' details on the database? i.e. The details that there are no known fault or unresolved advisories?

I'm really struggling here - i.e. What The F*ck Are You On?

God does not play dice with the universe, but allows internet access to Conor? S*it. I'm outta here.

Al.

Al (Al ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

No, they exist to advise you on faults which are not - yet - fail points.

Even if they weren't fixed, Plod are not going to knock on your door about them. You really think Plod have nothing better to do...?

Simple. Take it in for another MOT.

The MOT records the state of the vehicle at the TIME OF THE TEST. No more, no less. At the time your vehicle was tested, a fault existed. It was recorded as such. You can't change history.

Don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.

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There are plans afoot to do "on the spot" fines along with the prohibition notices as from September. At present VOSA staff aren't happy about it, but it's certainly on the cards.

Also, in December 2006 a vehicle belonging company I was involved with was stopped at the roadside by VOSA for a "spot check". The only advisory on the vehicles MOT (issued the week before) was for slight play in the o/s/f anti-roll bar 'D' bush. This was the first place that the VOSA officials looked, and they issued a prohibition notice on the spot - even though the play was minute and definately not dangerous.

YMMV, but that was what happened.

True, but the advisorys are on the computer system, so they're the first things that they'll look at. Easier to go for that stuff first, if they've been fixed they'll just check tyres and lights etc. If they haven't they'll look at everything else.

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