MOT Question (It Failed)

Brian explained :

The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with hotter filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not last as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full use of the handbrake.

Obssesive comulsive disorder.

Harry Bloomfield wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@tiscali.co.uk:

Handbrake turns are much safer.

I've given up cleaning the car. Every time I do, some local pikey decides it needs a new scratch / broken window / dent.

We are moving somewhere less pikey, when I can escape from normality and return to detail cleans every other week. Even when it's snowing. :)

What the f*ck has all this car crap got to do with uk.telecom.broadband

Adam

That's not exactly true. As the voltage is reduced bulb life increases non-linearly.

Than what?

And towing??

Mary

"Mary Fisher" wrote in news:4749a91d$0$771$ snipped-for-privacy@master.news.zetnet.net:

Try reading the quotes.

What about it?

It amazes me how many cars we see for MOT or service that have blown bulbs, no screen wash fluid, ultra low oil level etc.

The driving test now insists that people know how to check this sort of thing but no-one ever does.

To be fair, cars are so much more reliable now and things like coolant level, brake fluid, battery level (if it isn't sealed) and even oil level rarely need topping up between services. Because people don't have to check these weekly or monthly they forget about screen wash!

Why they don't check bulbs though I don't know!

Alan

It's also true to say that passing the driving test teaches people, well, how to pass the driving test!

My daughter has just passed hers. Obviously within that she was able to show how to check the levels on the school of motoring car. I then had to show her how to do the same things on her own car (where the filler caps and dipstick are _not_ painted yellow!)

While she is a reasonably competent young driver, the experience of driving her own car helped her develop confidence. The instructor has a very high pass rate, but it seems to me that this is largely because he has managed to reduce things like manoevres to simple mechanics, by working out how his car performs then passing on mechanical tips to his pupils. For example, parallel park - "turn it when this pillar gets level with the other car - give it about a 3/4 turn of the steering wheel - straighten back to the tape mark on the wheel", etc.

Of course her own car responds completely differently, so now, having passed the test, she is learning to drive...

asahartz (asahartz ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

To be fair, there's also a certain amount of blame can be levelled at both instructors and students - and, by extension, the fundamental education system itself.

The students are obviously not questioning "Will these always be placed in exactly the same place and be absolutely identical?" - they're obviously not used to actually working things out for themselves, because they've never had to - they've always been spoon-fed "You need to know this and this and this".

The instructors are obviously failing to say "They won't always look _exactly_ like this, but you should be able to recognise them fairly easily by..." - which you back up in your description of how he's teaching.

It's a shame that Ray threw his toys out the pram and sulked off, because his insight into this would be interesting.

Which is because it's all driven by results and league tables, not learning for its own sake. I should know, that's what I do. I'm not proud of the fact; I could teach so many more useful things given the chnace, but at the end of the day my boss is breathing down my neck to make sure I get more pass grades and higher grades each year.

I'll get off my high horse now!

What was that about cars? ;-)

That was *always* the case - it's just which bits you learn afterwards that vary slightly.

The actual skills involved in driving well, rather than the technicalities of not stalling it, can only be learned/taught once the actual control of the car becomes almost subconcious.

Because brake light bulbs are *so* expensive...

Damn right they are, I had to pay 75p for one last week as I didn't have my £1.99 lidl spare set with me. Not that it helped as I slammed the door after changing the lamp and the door lock broke and I couldn't get in and out and it had to go to the garage anyway.

Don't forget how TIME CONSUMING replacing a brake light can be.

Clearly you shouldn't use your brakes AT ALL.

Graham

have you ever tried changing the brake lights bulbs on a Land Rover4 Discovery with the rear seats fitted. That is time consuming.......

-- "For those who are missing Blair - aim more carefully."

To reply direct rot13 me

bURRt the 101 Camper

Car is an auto, so the brakes are used more out of necessity.

Not the expense. It's the aggravation of removing the light cluster to change them. Only to find, two weeks later, that the other side has gone... ;-)