Nissan Micra Automatic

That's the difference, plant machinery, etc. isn't built down to a price as much as things like small cars are. The manufacturers can afford to spend the money designing and building a decent transmission because they know that the type of people who'll buy their product *will* care if the transmission is made of tin - they'll have done their research into reliability, etc. before parting with £65K! OTOH, Joe Public doesn't really care or even understand if one car uses a rubber band compared to one which uses a steel one - he does care that car X is £nn cheaper than car Y...

Lets not forget too that car manufacturers don't really care if their cars only last ten years, so building a gearbox that'll last a lifetime doesn't help them at all, especially as Joe Public isn't likely to want to pay any extra for it.

Darren

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Nissan Netherlands don't know of another case like ours.

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martin

"martin" >

Nissan UK didn't know of any other cases of noisy clutches or disintegrating front seats in Terrano either. Odd then that all three of mine suffered from both faults don't you think? These guys never admit any fault on pain of death until it is decided at a high level to come clean at some point, if ever.

Huw

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Huw

gearbox

Well the competition in this area is fierce and margins much slimmer than for a car. However, the competition is also for technical achievement, performance, reliability and running cost. Maybe the buyers are sometimes more aware of quality and real value together with adverse revenue implications if they choose wrongly.

The manufacturers can afford to spend

Yes. Although embracing the latest technology, they will do a lot of research before comittment.

OTOH, Joe Public doesn't really

Yes

their cars

Yes but these car transmissions often don't last anything like ten years and when they fail they effectively render the vehicle useless and a heap of scrap when they fail. They were a disaster when launched in the Fiesta and as far as I am concerned they still are, unless there is evidence to the contrary. There is no doubt about the benefit potential of such transmissions in cars but the reputation needs redemption.

Huw

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Huw

On the recommendation of the Dutch equivalent of the AA/RAC I contacted an automatic gear specialist. He didn't know of any cases either.

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martin

Who made the CVT gear box in the Fiesta? Van Doorn? Nissan make their own.

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martin

decided

Not contradicting you, but automatic gear specialists will not see these transmissions because they cannot be rebuilt economically. All the interior components have to be replaced to ensure a large contact area because they wear in a pattern and in relation to one another. The cost of a rebuild is inevitably as high as the cost of a new unit, which we know is ridiculous. Things change so this situation may not be current and may not apply to all manufacturers, though I suspect nothing has changed.

Huw

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Huw

useless

launched

benefit

Nissan I think. Nissan certainly are major suppliers. Also Fiat.

Huw

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Huw

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