Thank you for hating Proton ;)

Good luck.

Only for the 1st 3 years.

Well paying that much for an 8 year old polo would be daft. But 70K isn't a high mileage anymore. I still reckon you'lll win on running costs though.

provided it is serviced correctly then it will probably give many years service. IME the main problem with 'low status' cars is that the owners have been hard pushed to buy them in the first place and have nothing left to service them with, hence they break down and decrease the reputation further. Whatever vehicle you buy needs outlay for maintenance, even if the vehicle has no real value. Alternately only spend when in distress and throw it away in a couple of years time.

Yet you're snobby enough to fess up to owning a 2008 4x4...

'58' plate, actually ;)

Yes, I 'fess up - I feel a bit downmarket in the Savvy - not helped by the fact that just about every other car on the road (even ancient Micra's) appears to think that its rightful position is in front of the Savvy, and not behind!

I can't remember the last time I drove a car that people wanted to pass so much! - doing 55 on a straight A road, Rover behind for about 2 miles, perfectly content. Rover gradually comes a bit closer, sees the Proton badge - and, Vrooom!!, mad overtaking, only to settle down again in front ;)

Plus, I've had 3 incident (already) of people waiting to emerge at junctions, sussing out the Proton approaching, and immediately shooting out in front of me as soon as the badge registers!

No wonder the little Savvy is group 4 insurance! - they must be getting rammed on a daily basis by drivers who hold them in contempt.

Indeed. Being basically a previous generation Mitsubishi, they're quite reliable.

Conor gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

If the one I had as a rental a few years back was anything to go by, it might not last years - but even if it only lasts weeks, it'll _FEEL_ like decades.

A truly dreadful car.

The older Protons were OK cars and absolutely fantastic for reliability and value for money. (We had 1300 and 1500 Protons)

We've had a couple of Mitsubishi Carismas too. Renault engined, the 1998

A Renault 4 engine? Now there's a car!

Completely understand. You'll be driving your car cheaply in a few years time when everyone else have just finished paying for theirs!

"Aggreived" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

You can do so if you wish, but it was intended as no more than a statement of fact.

A rusty Ka or a chavved Paxo. Yep, they'd also fall under my definition of dreadful.

Just over twice the price of those examples of "Or you could have had"? This is an apple. This is a pear. This is chalk. This is cheese.

Mmm. 10k of being touch-parked with mega clutch slip at 4,500rpm, never once got properly warm... Thanks, no thanks. I'd rather have something with 80k of motorway miles.

Let's put it this way... It's most certainly not what I'd choose to do with three and a half grand.

Hmm. How about a 4-5yo S60, wide choice of turbo petrol or diesel? Now that's a much more sensible use of the cash. Heck, you'd nearly have enough change from some of the petrols to pay for an LPG kit.

It's all probably because most of them are driven by the stereotypical

Who drives at 20mph in front of you everywhere.

Good luck with it. It's not my choice- I'd rather have the old Polo you mention- but if you like it and it does what you need...

"Aggreived" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

And you think that your Proton doesn't also contain a ton of "expensive electronics that could fail-safe at any minute"? The Savvy's (Proton own- brand. Mmmm) multiplexed, as is damn near anything recent (except, oddly, the Toyota-built C1/107 you berated earlier), together with (of course) all the emissions stuff.

Quick blow-over

Yeh, it will do. Until it starts to slip.

My bad - arguing with a d*****ad.

Do f*ck off....pretty please?

"Aggreived" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

...like the fact that your Proton is full of electronics, and that you could have had something decent for the same money...

That Proton beginning to look like less of a bargain, is it? Give it a year. It'll be worth f*ck all then.

I don't see why he should, some pretty good points in his post. I note that you like the sound of your own voice - until the going gets a little tough, they you cry foul!

Best take that Neutron for a drive and go and burn some rubber :-)

Julian

It's no use coming here with a puffy name and expecting me to take you seriously, Jules.

He's a d*****ad because he is apparently too stupid to comprehend what is posted - eg, 'Don't you realise that the Proton also has expensive electronic buts and pieces that will break and cost money, blah, blah, blah"

A non-d*****ad would have appreciated that, because the Savvy is still under warranty (unlike the oily bangers that Adrian seems to relish) the bill for these costly items will not land on my desk....which is part of the attraction of the car.

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I rather suspect that your father spent his life regretting that *he* didn't invest in some rubber on the night you were conceived (not a problem, one can't help thinking, that is going to affect you, Julian....)

As for 'burning the stuff' - well, I have our other car for that ;)