that s80 is still on my mind..

Jun 27, 2006 26 Replies

Euro NCAP scores are not real world accident scores. Renault et. al. are making cars to get high scores, Volvo make cars that are safe places to be. For example S60/S70 dropped a star due to passenger airbag being an option and not having a passenger seatbelt warning, not for any real danger to occupants. And the S70 is very much not in the current range.

Tim S Kemp ( snipped-for-privacy@timkemp.karoo.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

True.

Riiight. And EuroNCAP is *totally* unrepresentative, right?

Based on...?

Lemme guess - Folksam...

Clue: Different countries have different road conditions have different types of accidents. Swedish roads are *VERY* different places to UK roads.

French manufacturers back in the 60s and 70s used to get very good results in frontal impacts, because French Routes Nationales had a very high rate of head-ons, due to the numbers of roads with passing "suicide lanes". They got poor results in rear-enders, because they just didn't happen much, so it wasn't a factor in the design process.

MMmmm. Real safety mindset in these days of 47 windbags being standard in every single poverty-spec supermini, isn't it? Even my 10yo Citroen (four years older than the first S60) has a _standard fit_ passenger windbag.

The V70 and XC70 are, though.

Was a no cost option, as there was still debate as to the pros and cons of allowing children to ride in the front passenger seat (something all my kids did in rear facing carriers).

And at time of testing had optional pax bag.

Tim S Kemp ( snipped-for-privacy@timkemp.karoo.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Standard fit, with key disable.

Cheapskate pikeys.

Anyway - how does a passenger airbag affect the ped safety scores?

It doesn't, but apart from a few very recent cars all competitors are one or two star.

It doesn't. However the 2001 Laguna scores no higher than the S60. And the

2005 Laguna scores for pedestrian safety are to an older standard than that of the new S40 and cannot be compared.

Is that meant to be a good thing?

Surely, given that Volvo still market their cars on safety features, the S60 should be *much* better than the Laguna?

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