Tyres

That's more than I'd expect from P6000s.

Personally, if you get 15k miles from them I wouldn't bother changing brand.

I have found that Goodyear NCT5s last longer (I got 8k miles from a pair on the front vs. 6k from P6000s) but, the P6000s had slightly more grip.

Michelin Primacy. Not cheap, grip well and last for yonks.

Look at the sidewall of your tyres, and then ask a tyre dealer to sell you a tyre with a higher "Treadware" index.

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:12:39 +0100, Fred > to

Michelin Pilot Primacys

Grip - longevity! That's an oxymoron!

For motorway driving maybe, but if you only do low mileage in towns or city's then they are not good value. Some budget tyres ( Roadchamp for example) will out last Michelin and only cost a quarter of the price, they will have less grip in the wet but some people do drive carefully and would rather save money. Or you could choose a mid range tyre that will give better grip than Michelin last nearly as long but cost half the price of Michelin, either way Michelin are not really good value.

Fred example) will out last Michelin and only cost a quarter of the price, they

You only discover the value of a decent tyre when someone walks out in front of you or something pulls out in front of you when it's tipping down with rain.

For the sake of saving £50-£60 over, say, 10k miles (0.5-0.6p / mile) I think I'd prefer the decent tyres.

Agree with that 100%

Andy

SteveH ( snipped-for-privacy@italiancar.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

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Same here. Even when I've been running old sheds, they've always had decent tyres on them. I've known people who pay to put their car through a carwash every week to fit cheapo tyres. Odd sense of priorities there.

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Indeed.

"Oh, I never go on the motorway, so I don't need good tyres".

Then, next time you see them, they're driving something else. "Somebody pulled out in front of me, and I couldn't stop in time..."

Indeed and having just shod the front of the Focus with the Mitchelin Energy tyres that Costco bang out I was well impressed. Gripped very well in the wet, much better than the P6000's I had on there before. Remains to be seen what the wear is like on them though.

I learned my lesson putting a set of 'Road Stars' on my 124 Spider.

Never before had something so old and so s*it scared me so much on wet roads.

To be fair, once I learned to control the front and rear breaking away at different rates, it could be quite good fun.

Well if you can find one then I'll happily buy it, but I've yet to encounter a budget tyre that'll do 40K on the front of the A6 & grip at all.

In that case don't fit Michelin, there are many brands of tyre that will stop you faster.

You missed my point, Michelin are out performed in many independant tests by cheaper tyres. Michelin do have a good grip to wear ratio, but they are not the best tyres available for *all* driving styles and *all* types of car use.