VW Touran rear fog light

Doubt it would clear, plus it will reset your auto windows (easy), and radio code (???)

I'd really consider finding someone with VCDS, that might reveal something. Ask at one or more of the VAG forums.

"Tim Downie" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Do they? I've seen the "But it's safer to only have one" bollocks so many times that it really wouldn't surprise me if VAG were actually fitting everything for two but telling the computer to only use one...

"Tim Downie" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

The same bar, p'raps - but they all have to pick up on the same points anyway. The wiring kit is often sold separately from the bar, though.

Do you know, that may actually be the case. I've heard of people enabling the other one on this platform with no mention of fitting a bulb. Mind, if the ECU had dropped into LHD, it might not bother testing the RH bulb. Don't know for sure.

I'm not convinced "But it's safer to only have one" bollocks is bollocks though, but that's only IMO.

Chris Bartram gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Perhaps if manufacturers didn't put fog lights so damn close to brake lights... (and don't even start me on front indicators and headlights!)

Or if they remembered that there have been three brake lights for over a decade...

Heh. With you on that, and my car is as bad as any. See also 'indicators inside brake lights' like the current Passat.

Good point, but also 'if people didn't use fogs in the rain' :-)

I do find the 'sea of red lights' dazzling at times.

Chris Bartram gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Good point, well made.

Well, yes, but we can't blame the manufacturers for the stupidity of the users...

it would be relatively easy to add a sensor that turned them off once a car was at a suitable distance, after all there is only any point showing a fog light when you cannot see the car behind you.

"Mrcheerful" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

It'd be even easier for the driver to learn how to drive properly...

that is not the direction that cars (and everything else) is going. The responsibility and skill of driving has been superceded by making almost everything automatic thus requiring less attention to get a reasonable result.

"Mrcheerful" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Depressing, isn't it?

The problem is that all the fripperies are automatic (albeit fallibly so), but the really important stuff is still manual. And that's damn near the worst possible combination for encouraging driver responsibility.

The usual answer occurs, yes the fault is that you've got a VAG & not a copy of VCDS. Realistically it's going to be the holder, harness or if you're unlucky the module.

Independent VW specialist or an autoelectrician.

It's been all downhill since self-cancelling indicators were invented.

Tim

ignition by spark plug surely?

Tim gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

It's odd you should mention that - I much prefer non-self cancelling...

Me too. Learned to drive in a Renault 4.

Tim

the ones that are truly awful are the ones in later Vectras. I expect they are fine, when you are used to them, but for someone that does not drive one all the time they are very frustrating.

"Mrcheerful" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

When I had a rentaGolf a couple of years ago, after the first journey in it I spent some time rummaging through the "setup menu" (ffs) to figure out how to turn the frigging "comfort indicators" off. Nudge the stalk, three flashes. Except by the time they stopped, you'd gone "S*it, I've turned 'em on" and nudged it back the other way. Three flashes the other way. Rinse, repeat.