I am pleased that you have called me to task.
Yes, I was being an @sshole. That was a completely cheap shot that I
took. But here's why I wrote that.
The shots that you and Martin Joseph took against the US were equally
There has been no attacks on the US continent since Bush took action.
Have you no sense of how many people, many of whom were US servicemen,
have given their lives just so that @ssholes like you can make stupid
comments like you have?
The Iraq front has been brilliant, both tactically and strategically.
Explain how 30 civilian deaths for each one 9/11 death is "brilliant":
You obviously have not researched the nature of Al Quaida at all.
FYI, it belongs to no country and has no borders. I suggest you
research before you criticize.
Vehemence and tenacity are not substututes for ignorance.
You have got to be kidding me.
Cheap shots against the US? Buddy, open up your eyes and smell the roses, spend
some thousands of hours of research and then come
back and tell me that I'm taking "cheap shots at the US". Your demon government
will not destroy other peoples but will result in
the destruction of the US economy as well, when that happens, I'm on the street,
as Canada will fall right behind.
You FOOL, WHAT does that prove? Attempting to explain geo-politics to you would
be like attempting to explain calculus to a
WHAT STUPID COMMENTS??!@!? WHAT HAVE YOUR US SERVICEMEN SAVED ME FROM!?!?!??!
YOUR US SERVICEMEN HAVE >>>>>>>BUTCHERED<<<<<<<<<< HOW
MANY THOUSANDS SINCE 9/11!?!??!!!!!!!!!!
HOW MANY >>>>>>>>>>MILLIONS<<<<<<<<<< HAVE YOUR REDNECK ILL-TRAINED RETARD JOHN
WAYNE SOLDIERS HAVE BUTCHERED SINCE WW2!?!?!?!?!?
I HAD A FRIEND OF A FRIEND FROM TELL ME THAT HE HOPES THAT HE GETS CALLED UP TO
IRAQ SO THAT HE CAN SEE SOME ACTION, WANT ME TO TELL
YOU WHAT I TOLD HIM!@?!??!
GET BLOODY INFORMED YOU IGNORANT COWBOY FOOL! ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE
ELECTED BUSH AND WILL BE THE DOWNFALL OF THIS
OK, I can "top-post" with the best of them. What problems
do I have with Nigel's article? Frankly, it shows clearly
just how dangerous a little education can be.
1) the color of the article seems predicated on some imagined
U.S. "WAR FOR RESOURCES AND THE ECONOMIC SURVIVAL OF THE UNITED
STATES AS A GLOBAL POWER". Here's the blunt truth. There are
no major corporations that even imagine that there is some fictitious
"US ONLY" economy. Here's a hint - count the number of times the
word "Chrysler" is mentioned in this newsgroup. Isolationism
has not been a viable policy since the forties, and believe
me, the real MBA's working for real US corporations (who the
heck does Nigel work for?) know this. And the real politicians,
who are generously taken care of by the real corporations
know this, too.
2) The "failure" of the U.S. dollar is unlikely in the extreme.
Again, this is strongly tied in with the globalization of our
economy. The very "indebtedness" that the article cites is exactly
why. An isolated U.S. economy is perfectly capable of collapsing
all by itself - witness 1929. Again, REAL MBA's working for REAL
corporations are very aware of this. Our very "indebtedness"
is something that in a small business, one would call an
accounts receivable - and that very negative sounding term is
actually not a bad thing in real-world economics.
3) I utterly despise Nigel's assertions that Israel and the
U.S. are somehow responsible for terrorist actions. The history
of the part of our global culture from which much of the
terrorist actions originate is a history of intrigue, assassination
and terrorism dating from when the U.S. was a collection of
Sioux, Seminole, Cherokee, Arapahoe, etc. nations. Only the
Israelis seem to recognize this fact and respond appropriately.
Bluntly "the causes of world terror" are cultures that vastly
predate not only any current U.S. policies, but even predate
the U.S. I do not defend some of the "Cowboy politics" we have
been guilty of - but to say "U.S. = deserved terrorism" is just
flat over the top.
4) Nigel has been sucked into the whole "The Fed is fictitious"
bullshit. Oh gee, let's think about this. We (the U.S.) went from a
currency based on a mineral whose supplies were inadequate (gold)
to a paper (or goods and services based) economy, and on the way,
some wealthy farts may or may not have made a grab for a piece of
the pie. SO WHAT? Get over it. Whatever it's origins may have been,
the Fed is undoubtedly very real. Get used to it. This diahrrea
is spewed by some of the sleaziest crotch vermin on the planet,
those affiliated with Global Prosperity and Pinnacle Quest to incite
those who either have no common sense or are just f'king nuts to
part with their hard-earned cash. Guess what. The Fed is real.
The IRS is real. Don't like their origins? Too bad. They're a
fact of life. So is the prison you will go to if you swallow
the utter nonsense utter nonsense propagated by PQI and Global
5) Who the heck is Nigel H Maund, anyway? He claims in his own
modest words to be a "world-renowned Geologist" and an "Economic
Geologist"... Hey great - He's a geologist! He's an economist!
He's two nuts in one. His claim to fame seems to be mostly spouting
off about the Fed and Alan Greenspan, and stealing some charts
from Clive Maund, who seems to spend a lot of effort stating that
Nigel's works are not his.
6) Finally, the top post was just dumb. It was A) totally
incorrect in it's assumptions, and B) childishly naive and
simplistic in it's solutions. Nigel's pseudo-educated
drivel didn't really shed a lot of light on the real issues,
which are, I'm afraid, a little bit tougher to face. Having
a one-day gas tantrum isn't going to do much to the petro-
economy. Boycotting the right companies (which the top post
has utterly wrong) won't even make much of a dent. Making
deliberate, INFORMED, personally responsible, long-term choices
seems unconfortable, but ultimately holds more promise for
addressing the real issues.
There's more - actually quite a lot more, but that will do for
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 05:06:26 +0000, cp wrote:
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