That IS the blunt truth! The state aim of the people running the US is to keep
the US #1 znd prevent the rise of a formidable
adversary such as the USSR was. In the first Iraq war, the US had to ask the
USSR whether it was OK to attack iraq, the ruskies
didn't care as their empire was falling apart. The US is surrounding Russia and
China (and don't even dare deny that), to keep them
in check. Read what is going on from the horses mouth, I'm sure you've heard of
http://www.newamericancentury.org/ the official
neoconservative page. Heck, the NY Times even "leaked" out a partial pentagon
document in the early 90's that stated that the
general strategy for the US is to stay on top and prevent the rise of any
challengers, such as China. Read the The Great Game by
brzezinski, read chalmers johnson, chomsky, www.antiwar.com and when you have
proof that they are wrong then I want hear about it.
No nonsense about 'liberals' please.
here's something by ol' general smedley butler, you've probably read it
what kind of a first name is 'smedley'
This is geo-politics, markets and resources have to be safeguarded for
That's what preventing a quick collapse, because everyone else would feel it
too. China and Japan would have as much as the US to
lose if the US economy collapsed, so they thread softly and bank the US.
The US borrows $2 billion every day to support itself, the average american is
mired in debt, you call that good economics?
I don't know if 'responsible' is the right word here, US and Israeli actions
definitely attract terrorists. This Iraqi war is giving
birth to thousands of potential terrorists everyday. If US troops destroyed your
city and your family you would become a "terrorist"
One thing Americans need to get out of their heads is that theirs is a God
chosen righteous nation, only Israel is special in God's
eyes. As you're defending Israel I assume you're a Bible believing Christian;
well I have news for you; the entire Old Testament
witnesses to the sins of Israel and their need for the Messiah, the Bible was
written by Jews, what makes you think that Israel is
Give me a break! ARE THEY ATTACKING SWEDEN AND SWITZERLAND?!?! GERMANY??
NORWAY1?!?! Get this self-righteousness out of your head!
EVERY NATION HAS COMMITTED SINS, THE GREATER THE NATION THE GREATER THE SIN,
WHAT MAKES YOUR NATION ANY DIFFERENT!?!? ANSWER THAT!!
Your military has been killing countries and people for over a hundred years,
don't you think that some are about to get angry?
Terrorism is the fight of the weak against the strong. The US has killed many
times more people as terrorists have killed in the
last 35 years, that's bound to make some people angry and that's were terrorists
WHO is innocent of "intrigue, assassination and terrorism"?
"That" part of the world is weak, it's the only way they can fight back. You do
believe in fighting back, don't you?
The Israelis invented modern terrorism, it is how Israel was formed, every heard
of the King David Hotel? I almost lost some Jewish
friends when I told them that but they realize that it's true, especially one of
them who served in the IDF and bragged about
kicking around decapitated Arab heads.
What is "world terror"? Who said all world terror is caused by US policies?
Almost all the terror in europe in the 70s and 80s was cause by europeans. there
is a world outside the US, eh?
Yes, and it's precisely the cowboy politics that anger people and make them want
to hurt americans.
Who said "U.S. = deserved terrorism" ? That is a very serious accusation. I
didn't say it and neither did that Nigel guy. I would
not post anything that would say anything like that.
Whatever, that's a side issue
I don't know and I don't care, the guy "voiced" my beliefs which come from
thousands of hours of research.
Yeh, and it was pulled straight from the top post at snopes.com
nice chatting with you,
Why don't you join your chums in Russia or China then?
Yeah, and the second time around the Ruskies and their Frenchie chums
were too busy taking bribes from Saddam Hussein. Nice bunch of chums.
Why don't you join them?
You are stupid. Russia is in pieces already. China is going to have
its hands full when India overtakes them. In any case, Japan will
never let China get too full of itself. If China doesn't watch it
Japan will get the green light to re-arm. The US doesn't have the
resources to cover China but it doesn't have to. China does not even
have the support of its own people.
Why would that be surprising to anyone?
You read too much trite written by windbags. I bet you never did a
useful day's work in your life. You should pull your head out of your
Poor Smedley was an idiot and a coward if he ever existed. He's the
same sort who would give free cocaine to an addict just so we won't
have to contend with drug lords, who by the way would just find some
other poor sod to exploit.
CP, you are as dumb and as much a loser as poor Smedley was. Some
bastards deserve what's coming to them. We are all fodder for the
human condition. The difference is that some of us don't cower in a
corner and spend our time with our heads up our asses complaining about
anyone who decides to do something about the bastards.
Oh yeah, and good day to you too, stupid!
hey buddy, perhaps you ought to write something of substance instead of creating
a straw man and blowing it down.
huh?!!? My views are the same as half of the US, are you going to tell them to
go do the same!?
Shall I repeat? You have anything of substance instead of hot air?
I'm 30 minutes away from the American border, BC side, if you want, you can come
tell me that to my face. I really am not kidding.
I'm really sick an tired of people hiding behind their screens and writing
things they wouldn't dare to say to a person's face.
Don't count your chickens before they hatch, the ruskis can still turn this
contintent into glass before we cry uncle.
China needs stability, something the US is denying them in order to create the
pretext for staying in the area. India overtake
China? Maybe in a hundred years? The vast majority of India is mired in a
religion that treats 2/3 of the people as subhuman; 300
million 'untouchables' and 300 million people who are not better off, China on
the other hand is mostly a secular society permeable
to change, as we've seen in the last 20 years. The other benefit they have over
India is that they are not a democracy, that might
be sacrilege to those who deem democracy to be an absolute truth to be imposed
on everyone. What's good for us will not necessarily
work well for others. As a government (the richest in the world) that does not
have to worry about re-election they can focus on
economic reform. google shanghai and select images, you won't believe your eyes,
friends brought videos of coastal china over and
it's amazing, though with 1.2 billion people there will be a lot of poor areas
as well of course
And do what? What do you have against China? China, whatever its many faults,
funds your lifestyle, if they diversify their markets
enough this entire continent will be on the dole. How is China "full of itself"?
What did Christ say? Pull the plank out of your eye
so that you are better able to see the speck in your brother's eye? Who is going
around the world invading and dictating what others
may do? Look in the mirror before pointing the finger at someone else. I'm
blaming the state, not the nation, but you're supporting
what your government does. And why would Japan want to attack each other when
they are each other's markets?! And WHAT would Japan
do?! Didn't they butcher ENOUGH CHINESE in the 20th century!? China has nukes
now, Japan is much easier to destroy than China, and
there's a whole lot more chinamen to replace any that the Japanese take out, the
Japanese being concentrated into a small area...
Oh really? And you know this how!? As long as the chinese commies give them
prosperity they wil stay in power. A country with 1.2
billion people needs a strong hand, perhaps third world hole India could use a
stronger hand. Liberal democracies are for developed
Yes, but they're preventing this rise by going into their backyard. Remember the
noise in the US when a Chinese company took control
of the panama canal?
Look at these brown shirts:
The US' presence in asia many times more in the chinese' face, and you are
complaining of what?
So how are they wrong? They're not wrong just because you disagree with their
views. Are you going to call them 'anti-american' too?
I'm a programmer, 60-70 hours per week. I wish I could work less so that I could
be even more informed.
Your cause is not helped by being insulting, it's not like I have said something
someone needs to teach you some manners, cowboy.
So who says I'm American. I'm from Victoria, BC and I may just take you
up on your offer.
You just proved you're a warmonger and an idiot. Thank you stupid.
Hey stupid, how much do you know about China? I spent 16 years within
walking distance of China and I know the Chinese and the Chinese
government extremely well. By the way, do you know which country is the
world's largest democracy? As I said, you read a lot of crap.
Unfortunately, you just write what you read. You have never experienced
the bullshit you claim to be so informative about. That's why what you
write isn't even consistent. You claim the US is a warmonger but you
brag about a country that has starved millions of Ukrainians to death,
executed the entire Polish army officer corp and sent thousands to the
Gulags. You are pathetic. You know what you are and I know what you
are. Your reactions show you are not what you pretend to be.
Yup, that's what I said. You haven't done a day's useful work in your
life. You're a kid.
What a surprise, I've been promising to visit a friend at uvic, maybe we should
HOW am I a warmonger by pointing out a fact?? We would BOTH be annihilated!! I
suggest you take some logic and reasoning courses at
uvic, I hear they are quite good, infested with people who are a bit too liberal
for me though, and too young.....
How about we meet next time you come over to the mainland, I can meet you at
Tsawwassen? Unable to carry on a civilized
conversation? Did I insult you in ANY WAY in the post you replied to? Why bother
even replying if you're going to be rude? Have I
claimed that pigs fly, it's snowing in hell, that the second law thermodynamics
So you lived within walking distance of China, and that makes you an expert on
the country?? Perhaps you are, what about it? What
are you implying?
I work in Richmond, in a company 80% chinese, I know them well too, unless
you're implying the government.
Yes, I DID say that democracy is for developed nations, didn't I? 50 years and
India hasn't made the progress China did in 10.
You'll have to demonstrate that. They're not crap just because you don't like
what they say. How are the sources I mentioned wrong
in their facts? NOBODY is perfect, that's why MANY sources are needed, before a
general understanding of the issue can take place.
I believe I have some understanding of the issues I read about.
Thank you for your concern for my fellow polaks, ruskis and hohols. That the
commies were the worst news in history no one can deny.
Actually, I am polish, I've lived under communism (Polish "communism"), my last
name is ukrainian and I have extended family in
byelorussia and russia.
You are going to have to demonstrate how I brag about Russia, the USSR I should
say. I learned russian while learning what the
commies did to the Christians there. the demon commies sent my grandfather's
family to siberia (luckily they didn't get there)
because of an insulting comment my great grandfather made to the politruk
(political commissar) who was indoctrinating the locals
with evolution, he asked him basically the same thing wilberforce asked of
huxley, "how can you say your mother came from a monkey?"
yeh, that was enough to set the demon off, my family sold everything in a week
and headed for sibera when the germans came
You know, I have to agree with you there. The only thing this country exports is
softwood and software. I'm thinking of getting some
more useful education at BCIT, so that I will be useful when Bush destroys the
US' and our economies
Perhaps at heart. Haven't met any 55 year old programmers? Not that I'm 55.
Greetings from across strait,
Can't resist an intervention here.
Horse manure. No government in India murdered the millions of its citizens
that the Chinese governments did. For all its problems India has been a
better place for its citizens than China. Now that the dead hand of
'socialism' is being removed from the Indian economy it is moving forward
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
"cp" < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message news:rII4e.1898$7Q4.1520@clgrps13...
stupid suggestion. Why should I meet you? I have no interest in you,
only to show people on the Interent around the world the stupid garbage
you write. Why would meeting you help?
Ask your Chinese buddies if they want to go live in China. If China is
doing so well then why are they in Canada!
ha ha, you show your ignornace. Indians get to vote, have freedom to
travel, freedom of speech, freedom of religion (you're Polish, right).
Indian government promotes freedom Indians are free to compete in the
world. Chinese government is a joke, just a form of mafia. Chinese
people live under a phoney communist government that worship money
instead of Karl Marx. Let's see how far chinese mafia gets. Yeah,
you're Polish, right. I wonder waht the Pope would say about your idea
of China's progress. Ever heard of Falun Gong? Like I said. You're
Oh I know you understand everything real well. You're smart too. too
bad you're not right in the head. You distort everything just so you
get to feel good. You love to twist everything so you feel good.
you are starting to unravel. have you notice the inconsistencies in
your life? The Pope and your grandfather would smack you in the head
for your stupidity. Stupid boy!
Like I said you're stupid. You're just jealous and hateful of Jews and
Americans so you twist everything else just so you can throw shit in
their face. You have no idea why your life is so full of hate. That's
why I said you are a kid. Smart but clueless. You should go see a
shrink. okay I've given enough of free advice.
Think the US government is the Lone Ranger of Righteousness? This BBC video
should alleviate you of that notion, watch how your
government treats your fellow countrymen:
The answer is pretty simple....when fuel gets high enough in the USA for
real entrepreneurs to get started you will begin to see some solutions to
the petroleum problem. I'm really surprised that some of the bright people
in the EU don't get working on the problem with fuel at $7+ per gallon. If
that were the case in the USA you'd see some real action. Right now the
incentive is not there.
Was in Las Vegas Thursday and saw some new French articulating hybrid buses.
They not only looked pretty cool they were also clean running and pretty
much silent. As my friend and I sat there in his pickup truck, an older
diesel bus pulled up beside us. Nearly choked on the fumes and couldn't talk
to each other without raising our voices because of the noise.
Problems with driving in the USA involve generally longer distances between
points because of the size of the country and the fact that governments
leave most of the entrepreneurship to individuals. I understand it has
something to do with capitalism and the way it benefits those willing to do
a bit more than the next guy. I see where the French are going back to the
39 hour work week since dropping it to 31 hours still left them with 10%
unemployment. We're at about 5% unemployment in the US and 4% of the people
wouldn't work if it slapped them in the face. Go figure.
Take your meds and reread the thread. The "new" diesel hybrid buses
are getting poorer mileage then the old diesel only buses. The new
buses were MONDO expensive and promised to help clean up the air and
save fuel, which turns out to not be the case.
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