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Honda held off on diesel for a long time, and they seem like the kind of company who would hate to release something not up to scratch. As you say, it has been well-received. The 3mm bore separation seemed alarmingly small, but no doubt it's enough. Liked the semi-solid aluminium :-)

The piston crown appears to be "dented" to accommodate the glowplug, but that might have been an optical illusion. Nice video.

The terminology goes back to way before small diesel engines were designed for cars. Direct injection meant injection into the combustion chamber. Indirect injection, into an ante chamber. AFAIK injection into the manifold came much later, so you could say it's the current terminology that is incorrect. Mike.

Yes, but generally speaking, the presence of an "i" on the badge generally implies direct injection, as opposed to indirect injection, which, as you say, is a feature of all diesels.

Peter

A very good friend of mine - Astravanman, he's the guy who first introduced me to drinking the water from the fuel filter as a sign of diesel ownership! - put "TDCI" on the back of his 1995 Mondeo TD, back in 1995, to signify:

"Turbo diesel compression ignition"

Then Ford go and nick his idea about eight years later! :)

-- The DervMan

I suppose that could be so. Either way, the terminology used doesn't make it clear to the punter. Perhaps the petrol system should be called 'Manifold Injection'.

It's the same chap that designed the VTEC engine, which I guess might result in a near perfect design :-)

I think that is all to do with 'swirl', they seem to make a lot of fuss about that.

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O.k., so the obvious answer is to nab one off a 110BHP lump somewhere, but for other sources, then cheap second hand intercoolers can be had off several swedish turbo engines - any 2.0 plus turbo petrol lump will flow more air than your TDi, so they should be adequate. I don't know about the specifics of mounting. Of course, once you fit an IC then you need to alter the fuelling map, and doing that can be tricky for DIY. If you use a VAG TDi intercooler, then you can use an e.g. 110BHp tuning map. Alternatively, you could have a word with Allard Turbo or Van Aaken - Allard make thier own intercoolers (I found them surprisngly reasonably priced) and have been tuning turbo diesels for donkey's years and really know what they are doing.

Heh, well for cars old enough to be scrapped, but with decent sized turbo lumps, there aren't _that_ many candidates, although that must be getting easier.

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Some diesels are direct injection.

My thaughts on logical terminology would be:- Direct injection diesel. Indirect injection diesel. Fuel injection diesel.

The last to keep in line with similarly fuelled petrol engines.

But is the punter really interested? All most want to know is how much fuel does it use, how quickly can it accelerate, how noisy, and how fast. In roughly that order.

Perhaps the petrol system should be called

I see nothing wrong with the present terminology as far as petrol fuelled cars are concerned. IMO 'fuel injection' is all that's needed to differentiate EFI engines from those with a carburettor.

A direct injection petrol engine in effect is the same as a direct injection diesel engine, apart from the addition of a spark plug, so is obvious to anyone who understands how diesel engines are categorized. Mike.

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If they are they can always find out before buying. It's for nosey parkers behind!

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"Port Injection" has been used in the past. I s'pose that's quite a reasonable one.

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Mmm. Where there's a "TD" and a "TDI" version of a diseasel, the I normally implies the addition of an intercooler.

But the last is just a generalisation.

Exactly. The whole thing has become a mess of ridiculous acronyms, probably because all vehicles are fuel injection now.

Indeed, although the difference between sequencial and constant injection systems are more important - although I suspect nobody uses the latter anymore.

To be honest, as you say above, the punters only really need to know how their car performs. Even then the differences between each technology can overlap considerably depending on whose it is.

Yup, that'd do as well. I mean why not, they had to change single point injection to 'throttle body injection'.

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I think that change was a bit more a marketing decision. "Single point" sounds cheap. "Throttle body" sounds fast.

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That sounds like the best compliment you could give a diesel engine.

Better still, a chipped HDI!

Nothing to do with it, it was Euro legislation to standardise the acronyms used on cars.

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JTS is *petrol*, Andy. JTD is diseasel.

I have a (non-performance) 1.6 VTEC in my Civic, about which I can find out absolutely nothing (it's too new for all the archive saddos, I think). Don't suppose you have seen any specs ? I am mildly curious as to whether it's 2- or 3-stage and where the change points are. As I said, it's no boy racer engine, and I think I have only once noticed what might have been a bit of a shove when accelerating hard up a steep hill in 1st. Apart from that, any cam changes are so smooth as to be undetectable.