Senna is "responsible" for the only steel bracing in the NSX (behind the dash) because he commented after his testdrive that the chassis lacked torsional rigidity.
Other than that Senna's input was very limited which is logical: the NSX was in final phase and turned allready 8 months in camouflaged fashion at the Ring. Once a car is in that stage, the dices are thrown.
TDM
Sometimes, boring is good.
Spending £25k on a depreciating hulk of metal doesn't really make sense in a climate of escalating fuel costs, rising mortgage rates and rising unemployment. Said £25k lump of metal is going to take a steep nose-dive when the new VED demands start hitting doormats in April next year, too.
If he's *really* set on the idea, tell him to wait until the VED demands have started to arrive, as there will be many, many people out there who have re-mortgaged to buy such cars desperate to shift them.
I don't really think road tax going up by 150 quid a year is going to slash thousands off 911 prices - but I'm sure it'll be a few months yet anyway so that'll be the case by default :-)
Hmmm, actually depends on that age, I'm not entirely sure when that shape kicked in, to be fair.
But, the prices of anything slipping into the new top-rate VED band are dropping by the week at the moment - mostly because traders are very wary of buying them.
It's at the kind of money that people who re-mortgage will have spent on a car - these are the kinds of people who *will* be scrabbling around to sell as their finances start to look increasingly iffy.
I'm naturally cautious, hence ever spending big money on a car, but he would definitely be well advised to wait until the VED changes kick in and see what happens.
At worst, he'll have banked some extra interest from the bank, at best, he'll snap up a car for a good few grand less than it would be worth now.
Around 2000, but he'll be looking at an 02/52 plate - so £430 next year, £440 2010 - up from £230 (it is £230 for the top at the moment I think?) at the moment.
On lower end stuff like Mondeos, pretty sure it's not going to affect the £25k 'Toy/Luxury' market.
I doubt anyone who still owns and runs a 911 that's only 6 years old, will really struggle to find the extra what, £20 a month? Bit less than that of course but about that. If anyone was that close to the bone, the fuel prices this year would have already seen them off.
As I say, it'll be a few months anyway, maybe even next year - so the VED change will have kicked in by default. As there is no rush, he's figureing out the exact spec he'll be looking for, then just waiting till the right one, preferably still in Porsche warranty with the option of extendable warranty (you can just effectively keep your Porker in warranty forever these days for, I think it's around £300 a year). Approved used ones seem to come with 2 years as well - which again can be extended. He'll definately be going for that, big fan of warranty heh. Plus, even if he paid £300 for 10 years, kept it all that time, then the gearbox broke, he'd still be in pocket :-)
Hmmm, > a car - these are the kinds of people who *will* be scrabbling around to
You sure about the warranty cost - that's the kind of money you'd pay for a Mondeo - ISTR a Jag extended warranty is around 3 times that amount....
Anyway, if he's not buying 'till next year, he should do OK.
No not a clue to be honest heh, he said it was reasonable though so that was my random assumption. Of course if he buys Porsche Approved he'll get 2 years anyway it seems. And the Porsche Approved cars with have more scope for getting new brakes and the liek thrown in.
Aye.
Looks like it's £900 for a 'standard extended warranty' - ie. wear and tear excluded.
That's not what I'd call 'reasonable' - as it suggests they break quite a lot!
900 is about right. E class is over 800 p/a for the Merc warranty.
You know you want it.
You're moving to Vegas? I went there for 10 days a couple of years ago - we had a truely awesome time. I couldn't imagine living there though, over 100 degrees at 3am was a bit much for me heat wise...
It's not that high; the extended warranty on the Subaru was £600, the one on the C6 is £700ish (but I will attempt to get it thrown in), the Mercedes was about the same.
Seems to be a fairly consistent sort of amount and the Porsche is a considerably more expensive car.
Richard
To be fair, the C6 warranty sounds like a bargain, given the chances that it'll go wrong in an expensive way.
Which Subaru was it? - that sounds very reasonable for anything with a turbo, as they also tend to lunch expensive bits as they age.
Whilst this is true, you'd have thought that Porsche could make a car that broke so infrequently the warranty would be cheaper..... if Hyundai can offer 5 years unlimited miles and all that.
What are you basing your assumptions on?
As Dan rightly points out, a few hundred quid VED increase will make jack of a difference to a 911. That barely buys enough petrol for a weeks' worth of smiling for goodness sake.
If running costs and low VED were an issue, Dan's buddy would be looking for Lupo TDIs for goodness sake.
By waiting a few months, the summer will be over, so how much is the loss of opportunity worth.
Waiting for stuff to get cheaper before buying is a mugs' game; you'd never buy anything ever again.
If I were in a position to put £25,000 down onto a house or a 911, I'd think carefully about it. If I already had a house and were otherwise comfortably well off, the only question would be "what colour 911?" and "where do I send my Porsche Owners Club cheque off to?"
The Wolf drove one so they must be available.
Heheh... I think they're much better now. My primary concerns are things like the LCD dashboard.
Outback, non-Turbo model. Also they refused to pay out on a manufacturing defect that is well documented.
Yes, but the Hyundai costs 50p. The Porsche, I think, actually reflects the real expense of making it and employing the people that make it.
That doesn't meant that the warranty is anything other than a nice little earner for the dealer network, though...
Richard
Porsches driven by old giffers who never see WOT or max RPM seldom go wrong.
Possibly. Eventually. Ann lives over there, there is IT work to be had both in Vegas and in Silicon Valley (a mere hour by plane), and it's a relatively cheap place to live.
Mind you, we have to get the paperwork in first...
I also know I really, really shouldn't buy it.
That's pretty much it :-) They're all bloody silver! He wants black, or red, Carrera 2S, with the PSM, black leather with the full comfort pack, no sat nav, coupe rather than rag top, tiptronic, GT3 aero kit. It also seems to be a little optimistic price wise, which we suspected would be the case, so he's waiting till after xmas and stretching it a bit.
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