Re: Cyclist scratching car

...because it was either not seen in the heat of the moment or not noted down. The driver of whatever vehicle it was was "lucky"; he could not have counted on that failure and had no control over it.

To hear some people talk, one might imagine that motor registration is a total waste of time, money and effort. The plain and obvious fact that it is nothing of the sort indicates that the scheme could profitably be extended to bicycles.

It is also not in the highway code to undertake either, but cyclists seem to think they can pass either side,when it suits them.

Bod

But that's illegal!

Three offences there for a start.

Apparently not.

The fact that a Morris Major once ran over the foot of someone's maiden aunt in Cheltenham around 1952 is proof positive (were it only needed) that registration of bicycles Would Not Work, Would Cost Too Much and would be Self-Defeating.

Bod gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Would you care to re-read the HC?

There's a specific exclusion - and it's not vehicle-type specific, either.

Think... there is a specific exclusion. Just imagine a motorway, 3 lanes, all moving very slowly. What would happen if undertaking wasn't allowed....

Mike P

You mean "if vehicles are going slower on your right"?

Bod

I got pulled (just warned) for undertaking on a dual carriageway,when there was a real slowcoach in front of me in the outside lane(I mean,crawling along).I think that rule is a little ambiguous and open to various interpretations.

Bod

No, not really. It means when there is a "queue" of traffic, and the left lane is moving faster than the right lane, you can keep up with traffic flow without changing lane. Rather different to one cretin in the lane ahead of you blocking you when it's clear everywhere else. I've undertaken people like that in the past..

Mike P

I see what you are saying, but this 'cretin' had created a queue behind him and the nearside lane was clear.So, when is a queue,erm, a queue?(If you see what I mean).

Bod

There is no specific prohibition on undertaking in UK law. It may however be used as a basis for a charge of driving without due care & attention, or careless/dangerous driving.

The advice in the Highway Code is advice and does not have the force of law except where the words MUST or MUST NOT are used. (Even then, reading the actual law concerned will occasionally show that the HC is not completely accurate)

-dan

In this case, I take a "queue" to be an equal amount of slow moving traffic in both (or more) lanes... not just a line behind one cretin..

Mike P

I think the copper was being over zealous, everyone one else followed behind me. If I were the copper,I would have had a word with the twit who was causing the queue,to see why he was going so slow.

Bod

Don't know what a gnat is, but if you mean a Gnat then a knat is 10^6 smaller

-dan

As a pscyholist (sic, hic!) 3 feet is NOT enough. 2 metres is enough and that's about 6 of the previously mentioned feet.

This is very common, cars overtake and then the driver finds they have to cut in and brake. If I am feeling cheeky and there is space to do so I will usually overtake them before they speed up again. The can't judge speed and anticipate very well.

It's 3 miles through my local town. On that journey I will be have several misjudged overtakes on any trip.

AOL, me too.

Obviously

"mileburner" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Umm, perhaps you missed that it was the cyclist who decided to take a 3ft gap, not the car driver who passed leaving only that size gap...?

I don't, but then it is rare for a driver to throw open the door to drop himself off or a pedestrian to suddenly step into the road from the centre. Oncoming traffic tends to avaoid anything in its path (believe it or not).

Sorry, I was under the impression that the OP thought that 3 feet was plenty of room. As it turns out, it was the cyclist who thought that, and he has not posted here!