Re: More car wonderings

There's no low coolant warning, only a temp guage and it goes north really quick - mine dropped a hose on the M1 and I lost a gasket then - at about

90k miles, got it done properly and sold it at 160k miles for 500 quid, only paid 2000 for it with 60k miles on so it cost me 2p/mile depreciation. Which is the one statistic that made it better than an SL55AMG.

And subarus. And the BMW straight six. And the VW 1.8. Any more?

Non-turbo Scooby made 120bhp. Non-Turbo VAG 1.8 a bit more, not sure about the BMW, but I'm sure it wasn't the thick end of 160bhp.

Oh sorry, we're measuring by bhp and you're excluding the Hondas? What year was it?

1995.

For a N/A 2lt it was _almost_ at the head of the pack. The Mi16 ran it close, Honda were in the same ball-park. No-one else was close.

Honda were first getting 160bhp from a 1.6 in 1989, reliably too... and half the point with VTEC is you're maintaining half decent power and economy lower down, as well has having out and out manic power higher up.

Vauxhall were getting 156bhp from a 2.0 16v N/A in 1988, again reliably, and with big power gains easily extracted for not all that much cash.

In news: snipped-for-privacy@individual.net, JackH decided to enlighten our sheltered souls with a rant as follows

Ford RS2000 Mk5. 150bhp 1992.

Found it - 1995 in the 155 2.0 16V 150bhp @ 6000rpm... so 75bhp/l

1995 318is had a 1.8 16v pushin 140bhp, 77.7bhp/l. 1995 320is had a 2.0 24v with variable timeing and pushing 150bhp / 190N - oh it was rear drive too unlike the alfa... 1995 Mitsubishi Galant - 2.0, 147bhp. 1995 prelude vtect 2.2 - 183 bhp = 83bhp/l and was nice to drive too

1990ish - 405 Mi16 1.9 - 160bhp - 84bhp/litre 1993ish - 106 Rallye 1.3 - 100bhp - 77bhp/litre

1995 BMW M3 3.0 286bhp = 95bhp/l 1995 Maserati Ghible 2.0 306 bhp (1996 had 335), used turbochargers though 1996 Volvo 850 2.0 143bhp none turbo Lots of turbo metal... Volvo T4 (192 bhp) etc.

1991 Civic 1.6 VTi - 160bhp - 100bhp/litre.

I like... I want :-)

Surely it's a lower insurance group than the SL55 AMG as well?

All this reminds me of my Fiesta van, the first relatively modern vehicle (

1995 ?

Er, the 1.9 165bhp Mi16 lump was around in 1989 !