The reason I ask about sensible diesels.

Let me get this straight.

You talked to an agency bint about fuel economy?

Just making conversation with the dealership sales person while looking at the car, waiting for the missus in Debenhams.

Figured she must have been somekind of loony petrolhead under the sharp shuit. Either that or used the flappy paddles but didn't get it out of first.

I had a Y plate IS200 for a short while and it did drink the fuel...

Silly that such a small sensible family sized car should be worse than a big old "cost no object" executive barge though.

Higher state of tune, more emissions control s**te and I bet it's not actually that much lighter.

Everyone I know who has direct experience of IS200s (well, both of them) says they are universally rubbish on fuel.

It did feel a bit lardy. Easy to hang the back end out though. I nearly stacked it into the back of a lorry coming off a roundabout; I booted it to pass the lorry (dual carriageway) but he pulled out to overtake whatever was slower than him. So I lifted and found to my horror the thing just kept accelerating. The floor mat had slid forward when I put my foot down, and jammed the throttle to the floor...

Yeah, but the later LS400, 430 and 460 do equally well if not better and they are mahoosive.

Not really. It's a low tune * revvy smooth sweet 2.0 V6 in a moderately chunky car, that needs lots of revs to go anywhere, but also encourages plenty of revs and has short gearing too.

I like 'em.

Of course, a Y plater would have been a MkI with an inline 6.

Me too, they look cool.

They were on my possible list if I stick with petrols list until I heard her consumption figures.

I mean I could get 30-32 average out of the GT4 average, and not driven like your gran, and 36 on the odd long run.

And that was a a permanent 4x4 with a turbo.