This is going to get me slated. But...

Utter s**te.

Next suggestion....

Funny I never saw that one appear in your sig, were you that embarressed by it?

If I remember correct Top Gear said it was the easiest car to break into, somthing like 3 seconds by there professional car thief.

Alan

Almost every car can be broken into quicker by an amateur. I've seen that clip of the kid that they always wheel out when talking about youth crime, having the stereo out of a Mondeo and away in less than that.

Some of the reviews have mentioned dead locks, factory remote alarm and immobiliser. It won't stop a half brick, but nothing will until you get upto diplomatic levels.

Someone who used to post to UKRM was a Chrysler main dealer mechanic.

HTH.

I had one as a rental car in the USA once and they were an absolute nightmare to see out of!! visibilty out of it was awfull.

No, but I went with my mum went to test drive one a while back now. She didn't like it because of the ride quality and lack of visibility. She drove a Vitara at the time if that gives you any idea of how bad she thought it was..

Mike P

I had one for about 4 days in Florida last year.

It felt about as interesting to drive as a 70s Toyota or Datsun.

Seriously, don't do it.

Even talking about it makes me want to end it all.

It is not an enthusiasts car.

Sounds about perfect ;-p

Riggghttttt...............

For whom ?

How tall are you? I've heard the heard room is good which is one of my reasons for considering it. I find on a lot of normal height cars my head rubs on the headlining unless I have the seat at close to the lowest setting, and I have visibility problems using the sun visor having to crouch below it to see past the end of the car defeating the purpose of having the visor down in the first place.

I can see that rear visibility might be tricky, but parking sensor kits aren't expensive these days.

Well, it's got slightly Gothic looks, drives badly, is unfashionable and drives like an old Datsun. Elder'd love that....

Well I'm not exactley doing enthusiast driving at the moment, or for the foreceable future.

Plod up the M56, plod back down. Sit in traffic or go with the flow. Then once or twice a year do more than 100 miles a day.

Comfort and fixtures is more important at the moment than vroom vroom sadly.

I'm still loving the Saab, and it performed perfectly doing 275miles to whitby and back, but with the lower geared gearbox, while the reset fuel computer showed 35.4mpg.

I did a pump to pump calculation and only really got 32mpg. Best I've ever gotten but a bit pathetic for keeping to a steady 60ish, and driving for economy to see what I could get rather than going hell for leather to see how quick I could get there.

Shite old Citroen / Peugeot or VAG diesel, ffs.

I believe several people have mentioned this in the past.

One of the biggest criticisms of the PT Cruisers was the dealers not doing work charged for, and not admitting faults under warranty until the courts were involved, or recommending parts fixes not related to the problem, rather than the cars themselves.

I know some of them have had problems, but I really wanted to hear from either owners, people who have had them as contract cars, or a say courtesy or longer term rentals.

Yes, but this would be for if I decide to go beyond the s**te old car phase.

I like the exterior styling, and could live with the interior looking at it (not been in one yet). When you are buying a half decent motor, you need one that suits you in style/personality, that was why you bought another Alfa when the Passat went back, rather than buying a Passat because the other one was so awesome at what it did.

However, the 156 is a bloody good car, even by today's standards.

Whereas the PT was s**te when launched and hasn't got any better since then.

I also spend at least half my time on enteraining to drive A and B roads, so wanted a car to entertain me.

Forget about something that looks nice (in your eyes) and get something that's perfect for the job - Passat TDI Tiptronic would be just the job (B5 / 5.5 shape, not the current one)

This review seems to make it seem like a half decent motor. Not fabulous, but not a pile of crap.