Well, fingers crossed job is a goodun.

The air con gas arrived at work today. Got the kitchen scales out, and worked out how much gas I would need.

Should have taken roughly 560grammes gas.

Standard R12 capacity 700grammes R49/R314A substitute capacity 20% less.

only seemed to take about 250-300grammes. And about 50-100grammes in the aircon kicked in good and proper. with the compressor firing straight up.

It was a bit noisy with the bonnet up, but not overly bad. it sounded like a quiet compressor. checking the sight glass, the stream went from nothing, to bubbles to flowing.

It was colder inside the car than outside, and today that is saying something.

hopefully it will hold.

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Sleeker GT Phwoar
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nice job well done! air con peeps charge silly money for that!!! mine aint blowing all that hard at full whack and i found out why! silly bugger from the MR2 club left some trim behind the dash dials out that ducts the air so i get sod all from the right hand side!!!

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Vamp

Well, they do a bit more than gas it. I was quoted =A390 inc VAT to=20 pressure test, vac out, dye, oil and gas mine.

It cost me =A350+delivery to buy the gas. If it works, job done, if it leaks, I have enough gas to refill it and=20 get it leak tested, and get the oil drained and refilled with the=20 sealant/oil mix (the R314a is compatable with mineral and synthetic=20 oils, leak sealant tends to be in modern synthetic oils). if the compressor seizes and burns out, then I'll pick one up from an OC=20 member who has stripped his to save weight, get the gas reclaimed, get=20 the oil refilled, and get the gas installed.

If anything else goes wrong, it is too far gone. I'll just get it=20 stripped and fit the shorter alternator belt, and save a good few=20 pounds.

As long as it stays working until I sell it (when I decide), I'll be a=20 happy bunny.

Even though the last time it was gassed was 8 years ago, according to=20 the paperwork, there isn't any smell, and I had it running for a good=20 hour.

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Sleeker GT Phwoar

Good order! Ours gurgles after being used quite hard, it's always gurgled, it's on the original gas some 4.5 years and 72,000 miles later too... :)

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DervMan

Well, they do a bit more than gas it. I was quoted £90 inc VAT to pressure test, vac out, dye, oil and gas mine.

It cost me £50+delivery to buy the gas. If it works, job done, if it leaks, I have enough gas to refill it and get it leak tested, and get the oil drained and refilled with the sealant/oil mix (the R314a is compatable with mineral and synthetic oils, leak sealant tends to be in modern synthetic oils). if the compressor seizes and burns out, then I'll pick one up from an OC member who has stripped his to save weight, get the gas reclaimed, get the oil refilled, and get the gas installed.

If anything else goes wrong, it is too far gone. I'll just get it stripped and fit the shorter alternator belt, and save a good few pounds.

As long as it stays working until I sell it (when I decide), I'll be a happy bunny.

Even though the last time it was gassed was 8 years ago, according to the paperwork, there isn't any smell, and I had it running for a good hour.

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Sleeker GT Phwoar

i do that every morning! my MR2 turbo has the luxury climate control which i've had set to 18 degrees the past month or so, does bugger all the the fuel eco, bastard still drinks it like water! but all is forgotten about mpg when the turbo kicks in hehe

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Vamp

I'm probably going to leave the A/C on ECO rather than A/C most of the time, and just give it a daily blast.

After this evening's rain, and then running the engine while gassing the aircon. the cabin was still warm after it had been stood with the engine off, so when I went out to make sure it hadn't gushed out straight away about an hour later, I noticed that the windows steamed up.

literally 30seconds aircon, cold setting, blowers at max. A clear windscreen. Takes about 5 minutes when just using the blower normally.

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Sleeker GT Phwoar

Noooooo!

It's better for the system and the interior of the car to leave it on all the time.

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SteveH

The AC in the Range Rover is a strange set up.

There's the traditional "snowflake" AC setting, then a blue "fresh air" type setting, a red "fresh air" setting, and recirculate.

If I use the blue setting, the AC kicks in and out depending on the temp setting on the temp slider. If I use the red setting, the AC kicks in occasionally depending on the slider If I use recirc, it seems to be on permanantly On the snowflake, it just gives it death and tries to freeze me to the seat.

Works though, considering it's nearly 16 years old and still gets as cold as the AC in the Excursion - which is a weapons grade system, I'm happy.

I'll have to scour ebay for an owners manual.

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Pete M

I just leave both cars on 'auto', set my desired temp. and let the system sort itself out.

I love full climate control.

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SteveH

From what I'm led to believe, the AC in the Rangie is a climate type set up. There are sensors all over the shop, it's just not a digital one.

ho yuss.

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Pete M

On the celica, it is air con rather than climate. I have three settings.

1)No aircon, just blowers, with temperature. 2)ECO, kicks in an out when it wants. 3)A/C full on icicle works, especially from the steering column mounted crotch vent, you don't need any heated/cooled seats when there is an adjustable dedicated air vent. Supposed to be very healthy mind.
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Sleeker GT Phwoar

Tried it this morning. Not that warm a morning, but a little bit of misting on the inside of the windscreen. Can really hear the refrigerant circulating. But the "Aircon Idleup" appears to work. So it is still doing something. Didn't seem as cold at the end of the journey as at the start, but it was still cooler than outside, and certainly not blowing warm.

Good thing. Now lets see how long before the gas leaks out or the compressor throws in the towel.

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Sleeker GT Phwoar

Go somewhere else ! I paid one hour's labour only (£30 + VAT) to get all that done to the TI last year.

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Nom

That was a local mobile place coming to me. =A390 to come out, =A370 if I= =20 went to them, middle of winter I enquired. Reckoned if I asked now in=20 July, even though the weather is crap, I bet it would be more.

The gas itself cost more than =A330 for the 1kilo canister.

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The gas cost about £4 or something - it's the cannister itself that you're paying for. As above, the gas was *so* cheap when I got mine done, that it cost me nothing - I only paid for the labour.

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Hmm, disposable cannister, so it isn't a "deposit" charge on the can. A one kilo cannister is only marginally bigger than a large blowtorch=20 propane can.

Hmmmm, there is an idea if it leaks. Wonder if the valve will fit a=20 Propane can? Yes I know it is explosive, yes I know it is illegal, but=20 it makes a bloody good refrigerant, and if it works long enough to sell=20 the car, so be it. Stick in a =A35 blowtorch refill about an hour before=20 they arrive. They might gt a couple of days out of it.

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Hmm, disposable cannister, so it isn't a "deposit" charge on the can. A one kilo cannister is only marginally bigger than a large blowtorch propane can.

Hmmmm, there is an idea if it leaks. Wonder if the valve will fit a Propane can? Yes I know it is explosive, yes I know it is illegal, but it makes a bloody good refrigerant, and if it works long enough to sell the car, so be it. Stick in a £5 blowtorch refill about an hour before they arrive. They might gt a couple of days out of it.

That really doesn't sound like a very good idea at all...

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Well the gas definitely costs approximately nothing - I was chatting to the guy whilst watching him do all the stuff to the TI. It's the fancy machine that costs all the money. It had a gas resevoir and an oil resevoir, and it was very clever. Vaccumed out the entire system, and filtered it into two containers. One was full of s**te (water ?), and went in the bin. One was good stuff, and went back in the car together with a load of fresh oil and fresh gas. There's also some ultraviolet dye in there too, and so any future leaks can be easily detected. They're basically the only place in my area with a machine, other than a few main-dealer bodyshops (which charge COMEDY money) and he said it had been a very good investment. A car comes in, you plug it into the machine, press buttons for five minutes, and then go off and do something else whilst it brews for an hour. So they make £30 for 5 mins work. I get my aircon sorted for a bargain price. Their running costs for the machine are almost zero (oil and gas is almost free, as above). Everyone's a winner :)

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