'00 max Mechanics Can't Solve.HELP. Rattle/Whiney

Look sunshine, you are talking oranges and apples. YOU said that the guy's Maxima MUST run premuim. Several have told you you are full of s*it, myself included. No one here has EVER said that premium isn't needed for the best performance.

I 'worry' about very little. I have enough money, a home and plenty to eat and all of my family is in good health.

What I 'dislike' is some wet behind the ears kid driving his momma's car a couple times a week trying to give advice as though he actually had a clue.

You are such an easy mark. No one 'made up' anything. If yopur reading comprehension was better, you would understand that. Do you believe EVERYTHING everyone tells you? The interesting part is what Bob left out. Let me quiote the entire section:

FUEL RECOMMENDATION Unleaded premium gasoline with an octane rating of at least 91 AKI (Anti-Knock Index)number (Research octane number 96) If unleaded premium gasoline is not available, unleaded regular gasoline with an octane rating of at least 87 AKI (Research octane number 91) can be used. However, for maximum vehicle performance, the use of unleaded premium gasoline is recommended.

You can see this here:

It is far more apparent that there are people with their heads up their arse giving advice when they should be studying the facts.

BTW, it doesn't have ANYTHING to do with the price of the gas. You are wrong no matter what the fuel costs.

you need some serious help...

What is about the difference between "maximum performance" and not maximum performance that you do not understand,,??

The car is going to run like a turtle and get poor fuel mileage using

My last car said it would run, if need be, on 84 octane (common in Mexico), but did I run around looking for 84 octane to save a nickel...?

You are a blithering idiot.

general consensus is you?

did you go to Maxima.org,,,? Have you pulled all the posts on this topic here - its 10 to 1 in my favor.

do you own a maxima?

Do you have an IQ over room temperature - I do, I am a Chemical Engineer, and built the Space Shuttle , F16, F18, Hubble Space Telescope - your qualifications, aside from your lack of comprehension, are?

You fail, even after I have explained it as simply as possible, the difference between spark knock, and pre ignition.

The original posters Mechanic told him it was pre ignition, and to use premium.

Nope, there was more than just myself. Check the thread.

It is 10 to 1 in your favour for using premium fuel for performance. There has never been any disagreement about that. YOU said it is REQUIRED. THAT is what is BBS.

Sure do. So does my wife. I mentioned that in a previous post. I also said that I have burned regular with no issues but DO use premuim usually for the performance boost. Don't you pay attention?

Sure do, do you? I mean like standard temperature? Not that of an igloo.

Wow, I thought when you grew up you wanted to be a fireman, my bad. Please upload scanned copies of your qualifications for my perusal. If you don't do that, you are as full of BS as your advice was. A free place to do that is here:

You explained nothing to me. Go here for some enlightenment:

The OP's mechanic said it was several things.

"First he said there was a 'pre ignition sound".. then followed up with words like could be "air fixture," "timing cover" Tensioner..... and basically he said for some reason the check engine light isn't coming on so he can't tell what the problem is cause theres just too many possibilities... "

He also suggested trying premium fuel to see if it made a difference. Good advice, unlike yours.

I have no problem understanding those concepts. The point is, that isn't the issue. You told a person here that premuim fuel was REQUIRED to operate his car on. That is utter bullshit and you have been told that by more than one. It appears that you are having some real issues with getting a grasp on the difference between REQUIRED and RECOMMENDED.

Do you ever stop with the BS? As I have mentioned before, my Max runs pretty well on regular. It just performs BETTER with premium in it.

The manual doesn't say that. Are you unable to comprehend even such a simple statement? Perhaps you can get your mom or dad to read the manual to you and explain what it means.

Why doesn't it say to run avgas for 'ultimate' performance if higher octane is better? The point is, Nissan does NOT say it is REQUIRED to run the car. YOU do.

As was mentioned before, the cost of fuel still does not make your claim correct. It wouldn't matter if premuim was cheaper than regular. Premium fuel would still not be REQUIRED to run the car.

I am amazed that you can determine that when your head is so far up your arse.

I remember you from some months back getting slapped around over this same issue by several people. You used a different handle then but your argument style and lack of comprehension was EXACTLY like it is now.

You paid over 30 grand for a car that runs "pretty well",,,

LOL

He was running reg gas,,and complaining about pre ignition noise - which you will have running reg gas in a car optimized for premium.

and the car had 130k miles on it, which if run all on reg gas, would cause lots of carbon build up, and increase the octane requirements even more.

Compression ratio sets the octane requirement - the maxima engine is a high compression engine.

and please quote back to me where I said it had to run on premium - never ever made such a statement.

you sir are a moron.

Bullshit. That is what the ECM is for. Yopu are thinking of fixed timing as in a distributor. As I said, I have driven my own Max with regular and it DOES NOT ping.

More bullshit on your part. You are suggesting that regular fuel causes carbon fouling. Thay is utter crap. What do the people that drive cars requiring ONLY regular fuel do then? Do all of their cars get carbon fouling because they don't burn premium? You need to get the difference between octane and detergents figured out before you look more like a fool than you do now.

In part that is correct. So does timing, temperature, altitude and a bunch of other factors.

You said that premium was REQUIRED. What does that mean to you?

Maybe you should go back to building those models of the F18, F16 Space shuttle etc. You seem to do well in your dreamland. Your memory sucks badly.

I find that hilarious coming from you. Pull your head out of your arse and admit you were wrong. TRY to act like a grounup.

Are you on some sort of drug? I said it runs 'pretty well' on regular. I also said I use premuim fuel most of the time. Sometimes, where I drive, premium isn't available so I use mid or regular. Is that concept too difficult for you to grasp? There was NEVER an issue about premium not being the best choice. What I am doing is calling bullshit on your statement that it is the ONLY choice.

Give this message to your parents so they can explain it to you. I have lowered my writin as low as I can go. If you still don't get it. you need help.

I find it funny that you will not admit you are wrong in your statement that premium fuel is REQUIRED. Very childish of you.

so where in the 3rd world do you live that 91 octane is not available..???

The gas cap tells you to use 91 octane.

ROTFL,,,???

Not wrong about anything - the car requires 91 octane to run correctly,,,try to remember through your drug induced haze, the post that I responded to - he was having pre ignition rattling, using 87 octane.

I Canada travelling across the country, often small farming communities have no premium. Too bad you really don't have a clue except about your local area. Is the heat in Arizona burning your brain?

Bullshit it does.

Not what my manual says. Want me to scan and post it? If you weren't such a lame ass, I would make you a wager.

His 'mechanic listed that as well as a half dozen other things he 'thought' it might be. Remember this?

"First he said there was a 'preignition sound".. then followed up with words like could be "air fixture," "timing cover" Tensioner..... and basically he said for some reason the check engine light isn't coming on so he can't tell what the problem is cause theres just too many possibilities."

Your proctologist is looking for you. It seems he has found your head.

New to site so problem might be repaired already. However Ihad a noise that drove me crazy,dealer chargred me 95 to basically say live with it, took car and put on lift and found that a ground strap with a weld nut on the end had broken off and as banging against the exhaust pipe at times and the rear muffler had a hole and was also at times banging into the body frame, Fixed the hanging ground strap and muffler andits quiet again, The grnd strap is located above the front resonator and hard to find unless looking for it

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=== Looks like you have learned about dealing with a Nisson dealers service Dept. If they can't skin someone they could care less.

Oh right,,your the guy that got fired by Nissan - under yet another new posting name.