Smart people buy Priuses

LOL! You are an idiot if you believe that gas mileage equates with "caring about the planet or about people." Typical left-wing maggot. No doubt given the opportunity you would seek to forcibly impose your values on the rest of us, just because you *care* so damned much!

Another whopper!! Gad you libs are nothing if not predictable!

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Roger Blake
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I really could not care less what some Commumist bitch "thinks."

The only thing more pathetic than a young person attempting to purvey wisdom that is beyond his years is an aging hippie who should know better -- but doesn't. (At least the young have an excuse for their idiocy.)

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Roger Blake

Well, that leaves me out. I'm as much of a Communist as you are a fascist.

That leaves me out too. I never got to be a hippie; I was too busy being a soldier and saving your sorry ass from the Commie hordes.

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Michelle Steiner

I'd call you an idiot, but that would be an insult to all the idiots of the world.

Reducing pollution is caring about the planet and about people. You're too stupid to understand that.

Typical right-wing fruckwit.

No, that's what you right wingers do, and if you deny that, you're a lying sack of feces.

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Michelle Steiner

Why am I not surprised? It goes with your "I've got mine; f*ck everyone else" mentality.

You're offering an unsubstantiated opinion, period.

Why am I not surprised? It goes with your "I've got mine; f*ck everyone else" mentality.

You are a miserable excuse for a human being.

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Michelle Steiner

If that is indeed the case your service is appreciated. (Of course anyone can claim anything about themselves in this type of forum.)

However, having said that, I still believe your position is basically a fetid pile of dingoes' kidneys.

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Roger Blake

What's the matter, boy? Can't stand it when someone hits back?

You mean like Bush does, you hypocritical ass.

You better tell that to the millions of people who buy new cars, SUVs, and trucks; preach to them, there are more of them than there are those of us who make intelligent choices when we have to buy a car.

At least I speak the truth.

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Michelle Steiner

I was just thinking the same thing about you. Funny how that works.

Oh, you lefties just *care* so much it hurts! LOL!

The so-called "environmental movement" is little more than a thinly-veiled attempt at forcibly imposing socialistic, left-wing ideals on the public using "saving the planet" as an exuse.

Ah, yes, let out all of that liberal hatred! Anyone who doesn't toe the DNC party line *must* be a brain-dead moron!

ROTFL!! I do deny it you low-grade moron! It is LIBERAL DEMOCRATS who seek to dictate every aspect of our lives, and enlarge the role of government to the N'th degree. It is LIBERAL DEMOCRATS who seek to use the force and violence of the State against individuals who do not wish to live their lives by "enlightened," "caring" left-wing standards. The only question is when they manage to seize complete power, will they use gulags or insane asylums for the refuseniks? (After all, anyone who questions the Workers' Paradise must be insane or a criminal!)

It is CONSERVATIVES who are for limited government and personal liberty. (Unfortunately they are few and far between in the Republican party at this point. It has been taken over by so-called "neocons" as the Democrat party has been taken over by left-wing radicals.)

Frankly it is you who are a lying sack of cow dung if you deny this! (Hell, we have Hillary Clinton out on the campaign trail practically quoting Karl Marx!)

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Roger Blake

The pot calls the kettle black once again. No surprise there.

All for driving a car that you don't like! Ah, the open-mindedness and "caring" of the American Left knows no bounds! LOL! You are ugly and your mother dresses you funny.

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Roger Blake

Have you hit? I hadn't noticed! All I see here is the same old, same old DNC/liberal Democrat Party line. "We are caring! We are intelligent! You are stupid if you don't think as we do! When we take power we will FORCE you to abide by our caring, intelligent values!"

Same old crap I've been hearing from your lot for decades.

Where did I say I support Bush? More unsubstantiated supposition on your part.

I have no interest in "preaching" to them. In my view anyone has the right to purchase any vehicle they like and can afford, whether I like what they drive or not. You want a Prius, go knock yourself out. Ditto if you want an Escalade. It's all a matter of individual choice. Neither you nor I have to approve anyone else's choices. (I might poke fun at someone's choices and motivations but in the end it is their choice to make.)

What the libs want to do, of course, is forcibly impose THEIR choices and THEIR values on the rest of us by using government to dicate what THEY believe are the "intelligent choices."

This is obviously some strange, twisted new definition of the word "truth" with which we were not previously familiar.

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Roger Blake

Very possibly, and I expect he's smarter than you too (and with all humility I'm no dummy), you don't get to be President without being pretty bright, and the man DOES have a MBA from Harvard AND he flew fighters for the National Guard. You just can't do those things without some smarts.

The reason that you have trouble understanding

Not hardly, I deal with lefties all the time and can probably argue your side about as well as anyone on it, it's just that most of what passes for liberal thought is divorced from reality and common sense.

Sometimes I'm like a moth to a flame...

Jeff DeWitt

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Jeff DeWitt

It dawned on me today what really bugs me about Prisus, it's not the cars (although I'm no Toyota fan), and it's not the technology, I'm a geek and find technology fascinating, what really bugs me about Prisus is the smug, self righteous attitude of so many of the people that own them.

If I was going to buy a hybrid I'd buy a Civic or even better an Escape.

Jeff DeWitt

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Jeff DeWitt

Ahh sounds like a Hitchhikers fan!

Jeff DeWitt

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Jeff DeWitt

I can't help wondering why you're cross-posting to a Prius group if you have no interest in them...unless it's to troll for inane political turd-flinging...

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DougSlug

I'm just hitting reply. I AM interested in them, the technology is fascinating and I've enjoyed discussing it. I've also learned more about the cars.

I shouldn't have made that comment about smug self righteousness, it really doesn't contribute to the discussion and gives offense when it was not necessary to be offensive... this isn't an excuse but I think it was triggered by an earlier part of this thread where we really were having an interesting discussion and then a couple of posters turned it into a flame war. (or at least a flame skirmish!).

Whatever the reason I apologize for being offensive.

I'd still rather have an Escape though, it's a bigger vehicle, the station wagon type body is more practical for me... and frankly I'd rather have a Ford than an Toyota.

What do you think of the plug in version of the Prius that Toyota is currently testing?

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Like I've said before I really do think the current hybrid technology is a stopgap, transitional technology. They are more or less conventional gas powered cars with an electrical assist (in effect an electric flywheel), whereas something like the Chevy Volt is an electric car with a gas (or whatever) assist to keep the batteries charged.

I think that is where we are really headed, the Prius is a step down that road.

Jeff DeWitt

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Jeff DeWitt

Oh, I know that he's not smarter than I am. My SATs were in the high

1500s.

Bush's SAT score was 1206 (566 Verbal, 640 Math). See the upper-left corner of his Yale transcript:

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This web page offers a theoretical conversion of pre-1974 SAT scores to IQ:
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Based on that conversion chart, Bush's IQ would be about 129.

Another web page, "SQ, IQ, and self-skills in recent US Presidents" mentions that Charles Murray, author of a book on IQ called "The Bell Curve," compares a that SAT score to an IQ of about 125.

"On his SAT's, President GW Bush scored 566 verbal and 640 math, for a total of 1206 (from

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" Finally, when it comes to raw IQ, Bush is in the mid-range of American Presidents. In 1999, Charles Murray and I calculated, based on Bush's SAT score of 1206 (old-style scoring system), that his IQ was probably about 125 or a little higher..." source: Steve Sailer, vdare.com:
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Sure; all you need is charisma and good handlers.

I've known quite a number of dumb jet jocks in my life.

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Michelle Steiner

You owe me a new keyboard. I laughed so hard at that comment that I spewed all over the keyboard.

Do you really believe that balderdash, or is it merely rhetoric?

You have it backwards; anyone who doesn't buy into the right-wing propaganda is a stupid liberal socialist commie.

There is more hatred coming out of your side than there is from anywhere else--your side is almost nothing but hatred.

Bullshit. It is you rightwingnuts who are passing laws preventing same-sex marriage. It is you rightwingnuts who are preventing gays from serving openly in the military. It is you rightwingnuts who are decreeing that abstinence is the only thing that should be taught in sex education. It is you rightwingnuts who are decreeing that doctors pass on false information such as abortion causes breast cancer. It is you rightwingnuts who are trying to outlaw abortion. It is you rightwingnuts who are telling people to leave the US if they don't like the government. It is you rightwingnuts who put religion and ideology above science, fact, and logic.

You are a bunch of control freaks who would turn this country into one like in _The Handmaids Tale_ or _1984_.

See above! You preach "personal liberty" but you practice anything but that.

If you hate America, vote Republican.

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Michelle Steiner

You are a goddamned m**********ng liar, totally brainwashed by right-wing zealots, and are incapable of having a rational discussion. I am through with you, asshole.

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Michelle Steiner

And what I said to him goes double for you, f****it.

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Michelle Steiner

Whatever kid.

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Jeff DeWitt

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