Ignition Location

Because it is not really a Saab at all, but an exotic Italian car that we normally wouldn't be able to get in the US. ;-)

Walt

How can you say such nonsense?

I can say it with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Do you have a German sense of humor?

so what car is it for reall and is it a good company the drive tran is all reall saab tho

so what car is it for reall thn and is it a good company. the drive trane is reall saab tho

Because the Italians didn't want it there.

" The SAAB 9000 is based on a floorpan developed by SAAB and Fiat/Lancia. Cars like the Alfa 164 and the Lancia Thema share the same floorpan, but that's where the similarity ends. SAAB engineers have designed everything else, including a full range of engines and gearboxes. Used car prices are very good value, offering high spec and staggering performance at a very reasonable price. Later models such as the 9000 CSE 2.0 eco feature a low pressure turbo, which offers good all round performance and were introduced in 1992. This model ran up to the end of its production in 1998, when the SAAB 95 was introduced. A CSE will have climate control, cruise control and leather seats as standard on later models. SAAB are well known for their turbocharged cars, and the 2.3 turbo is outstanding.

The good points Roomy, comfortable long distance cruiser Unique 5 door hatchback with fold down rear seats. Cannot be beaten on space and performance. Also 4 door saloon (CD model) available High level of standard equipment Well proven and reliable design Seats are probably the best in the industry for comfort, and are particularly of benefit to people with back problems Competitive parts pricing policy "

Hmmm @ the parts pricing !

Graham

He can say that because it is essentially true. The 9000 was a joint project between a number of car makers, and was not designed by Saab. It appeared with minor trim changes in a number of marques, but fell out of favour with most fairly quickly, only Saab continuing with it until they brought out the 9-5. I have had numerous (about 14 from memory) Saabs since 1973 covering all models except the 9000, which I refused to buy after looking it over, on the grounds that it wasn't really a Saab.

--=20 Regards, Peter Wilkins

Because even older SAABs did not have it between the seats either. The

A Fiat Croma is not exotic...

-- MH '72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96 '91 900i 16

Rare is a relative term. Fiat Cromas are "rare" in the US since they are were not sold here.

-Fred W

I understand that may be your point of view, but since I have never seen one in person, it is exotic to me. Fiat's of any type haven't arrived in the US for over 20 years. They foisted the Strada (Ritmo) on us and then left our shores.

Walt Kienzle please note: Not everybody is well informed enough to see through your humour (error No 1). Secondly, Germans have great sense of humour (error No 2). Thirdly, I'm Danish (error No 3)

I had a Fiat Croma 1987, the other Type 4 car, so I know the difference between the cars first hand.

Cars like the Alfa 164 and the

Indeed. Since the interiors are completely different, there was no inherent reason for the Ignition Location location near the steering column. However, if the car was seen as a modern replacement for the 900C model, then it might be that Saab wanted to be more mainstream to appeal to more customers, the same route taken by e.g. Citroen.

It makes me speculate that cars are a lot more uniform these days than yesteryears. It is as if the modern car has been developed through a lot of initial experimentation, and the current form is the result of survival of the fittest. There are of course still variations, but the vast majority are transverse 4 Cyl FWD monocoque.

SAAB engineers have designed

prices are very good value, offering

such as the 9000 CSE 2.0 eco

introduced in 1992. This model

A CSE will have climate control,

known for their turbocharged cars,

hatchback with fold down rear seats.

available High level of standard

industry for comfort, and are

Bah.

If you can name the number (3) and participants (Saab, Lancia, and Alfa), then you'd know that the initial design was joint, and then diverged quickly as the 3 makers had profound technical differences of opinion.

I question your understanding of the situation.

People have been saying that about new changes since the 2-stroke was replaced with a Ford V-4. And then an engine shared with an English car. And _then_ the freewheel went away!?!!!1!11!!eleventy!!1!!! And on and on and on.

"Peter Wilkins" skrev i en meddelelse news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

He can say that because it is essentially true. The 9000 was a joint project between a number of car makers, and was not designed by Saab. It appeared with minor trim changes in a number of marques, but fell out of favour with most fairly quickly, only Saab

I think you REALLY need to read up on your Saab history!

all models except the 9000, which I refused to buy after looking it over, on the grounds that it wasn't really a Saab.

No Saab is, unless you have the original 1946 Saab 92. Saab has always bought technology from other marques.

Cheers!

And even UrSaab has an engine from someone else - Auto Union.

Having read all this are there any thoroughbreds left anywhere else except UK. Suppose Ferrari's are Fiats then? Cheers Clive

Yes, as of 2004, FIAT owns 57% of Ferrari, Mediobanca owns 15%, Commerzbank AG owns 10%, Lehman Brothers owns 8%, Enzo's son Piero Ferrari owns 10%.

-- MH '72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96 '91 900i 16

I thought that it was time for a bit of levity and I knew that someone else would provide the complete answer (erroneous assumption #1; also see erroneous assumption #3). How can a question be an error? (erroneous assumption #2). I know Germans have a great sense of humor, because I am German. It's just an expression (erroneous assumption #3). I knew you weren't from Germany; I wasn't fooled by your given name - although Denmark is geographically nearby (erroneous assumption #4).

Ha! My 4 to your 3. You lost. Humor wins.

God! What a mess!!