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No way Karl. Stop wondering. I must dash your hopes. They are members of the Dunkard religious sect which common here in the midwest. The Dunkards are similar to the Amish in some respects but do use "modern" things. In fact, they did the footing elevation with a laser level. John Hess uses a cell phone which goes very well with his long gray beard and wide black hat.

They are the type of people that are the FIRST to show up to help in a disaster. And we do get some tornados here. Welfare is not part of their beliefs. GASP They tend to help each other out rather than seek the government teat. GASP

I received an estimate three weeks previous on John Hess' company letterhead for Hess Construction and Concrete. I will write them a check tomorrow when John and I get together. No money was requested up front. I suggest you can now show your knowledge (at length) of the Dunkards and try to clean off your shoe.

Reminds me of some ex-Menonites I used to work for at a strip mining company. I thought those guys were joking when they said they worked long hours... 5:30 a.m. - 8:00 p.m. Monday thru Friday and we got an easy day on Saturday, 5:30 a.m. - 2:00 p.m.. Then on Saturday night the younger ones were like cowboys on their annual trip to town.

I grew up in a small midwest farming community and thought farmers put in long hours...

Lee

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I thought those guys were joking when they said they worked long

This reminds me of what I read when Hyundai set up shop here in USA/Canada. The executives from Korea were rather taken aback at the

9-5 mindset we have. Seems they are used to those 6 AM to late evening working hours where they won't leave the office until the assignment is done which is a way of corporate life over there. The North American workers hired by Hyundai couldn't believe these Koreans would devote that amount of time per day to the company.

Craig

Pretty close. These guys are Dunkards. It was pleasant to be around them. No griping, no cursing. If you are driving in northern Indiana and pull up behind a guy who wears a black broad brim hat and he is driving a black four door plain Jane Chevy. It may not be a cop , it might be a Dunkard.

Will the Chevy have a radio? I know the Hutterites around here will have full-size fully loaded Chev, GMC or Ford trucks and vans with every option EXCEPT a radio. Something in their creed prohibits them from owning or listening to recorded music. They factory order these trucks and vans, so they will not have a hole in the fender for the antenna, and on GM's where space on the dash taken up by the radio is quite large, a deep map/sunglass storage bin takes its place with the (probably extremely rare) 'radio delete' option.

Craig

Menonites just unscrew the antenna or unplug the power to the radio. I grew up not far from a Hutterite community and we had a couple students in our school who's families were members, I know they had a thing about not allowing television and radio in their homes. I think they all allow computers and internet access now... probably under adult supervision. In grade school we took a tour of their farm and it was a huge garden and chicken house (they raised the chickens for the eggs). As I get older I can better understand the desire for that way of life, they work an honest days work and are probably healthier than anyone who sits around a computer all day and hits the gym 2-3 times a week.

Lee

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As I get older I can

And their homes don't have kitchens, either. All the colonies have a common dining hall where the entire band gathers together at mealtime. The men eat first, then the children, and then the women. They do use computers for inventory keeping, accounting, etc., and probably for e-mail only. They set themselves up so that one male each from the colony goes to the tech to get his ticket in plumbing, electrical, etc., and are expected to train all the other men in the colony his trade. (The trade certificates hang on the wall in the communal hall.)

Craig.

It may seem extreme to most of us, but their lifestyle provides better results than the main-stream, both for the present and the here-after. I would be willing to bet that their kids grow up with far less problems than those raised on TV/govt. school propaganda. Their youth probably do not disrespect their elders, or use drugs, view p*rn, join gangs, have body piercings, or bring bastard children home for mom & dad to raise like so often occurs in what is left of middle America. Early deaths due to the results of smoking & alcoholism are unheard of there. When I visited Amish towns, I know I saw no gay bars, massage parlors, adult book/video stores, liquor stores, tattoo parlors, crack houses, burglar bars, street people, graffitti, or pan-handlers at all. Not even a beer joint. The clip-clop of those Amish horses on the pavement was certainly an improvement over the million megawatt rap noise we are so frequently tortured with here in the ghetto of Houston as the homies' and wiggers' ghetto sleds and low rider beaner-mobiles cruise by.

-- Barry'd in Studes

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Check you local state and federal gov't sales.The Hutterites come in from Nodak and have first pick of any government surplus,apparently they have a agreement/contract that gives them first shot at anything.They roll in with semi rigs and trucks and trailers and load up.They dont miss much either.

I've heard of the Dunkards before - nothing but good. I've also seen good workers who arre working for cash under the table who show the same good work qualities, if not ethics.

I doubt that you remark that your remaark something like, "my experience should prove that ALL... would pass a review by the studenat in a "logic 101" class.

No one experience can be validly expanded to apply to all. It is as valid as saying that "all Speedsters (or whatever) are in great shape because mine is."

Karl

Lark Parker wrote:

Barry wrote: The clip-clop of

Did I hear the clip-clop of horses when I was at your place? I don't remember, but it could be I did. I certainly didn't hear / see any of what made up the rest of your paragraph.

Karl

the name of it at the moment,it said that the Studebaker brothers were Dunkards.

I was attempting a satirical parallel to Billy G's closing thought. But subtlety doesn't do well here sometimes. You did well on changing the subject away from your attacked assumption, even though I tried to head you off with my caustic "show your knowledge" remark.

It can be a challendge to close all the return retort loopholes but that is what makes you a fun challenge to screw with.

I can only give you a "C" because the critique was superficial. (Zinger!) Its my course so I can grade at my pleasure. It is up to the student to understand the professor's approach.

I enjoyed my Logic 101 class at Purdue and thought it was one of my most beneficial classes of all. Unfortunately, it never taught me how to be satirical and logical at the same time. At one time I resorted to labeling remarks as "irony" here on the newsgroup but have since decided that was talking down to the reader. A few have never had a problem with TALKING DOWN TO ME and have thus become my favorite targets to deflate.

I passed the logic course with a B+ because I ran out of time on the final which was to write a critique of the Prof's own grown proposition. Whatever it was, must have been very forgettable.

Here is a sort of shared logic state that was recently in a comic strip that takes logic to the absurd: "If ignorance is bliss-- he must be estatic." I really liked it. That made it easy to remember even with my case of advancing chronological stupidity. Its not pure logic as it trades on the extent of the shared state for humor rather than the existence of the shared state.

But pure logic is rarely funny.

In article snipped-for-privacy@aol.com says... I read a book some years ago about John Mohler Studebaker,I can't remember the name of it at the moment,it said that the Studebaker brothers were Dunkards.

I believe that to be correct. There are a large number of Mohlers here in the Dunkards in Clinton County.

I made sure to tell them the Wheelbarrow Johnny story and included the Mohler middle name. They liked my black 39 President and I had no concern about them having garage access. My wife was a member of the Brethren and knows more about them than I do. She was "dunked" but I don't think it "took". They baptize three times for the Holy Trinity, face forward.

I think that that sheriff in Arizona should be put in charge of all of our borders...

JT

I said HOUSTON, Karl. About all you heard in the brief time you were here was the jets taking off where I live in unincorporated Harris County. At times, we get that ghetto crap here as well.

-- Barry'd in Studes

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