Dodge caravan Metric Tools?

Feb 13, 2008 42 Replies

Just purchased a 2006 Dodge Caravan, anyone know who makes the 3.3L engine? Also the tools required to work on the vehicle, are they Metric or the standard N.American tools?



Thank you in advance Denny B


Chrysler

Everything is metric

The OP might want to take a look at the following link for a little history on the 3.3 L. It is apparently not a bad engine.

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All vehicles, even those made in the US of A, have been metric for the past

25 years.

You don't work on Chevy trucks much, eh?

Back in the 1960s or 1970s, either fed govt or somebody else was wanting/trying to get everything in America on metric.I am used to good old standard American measurements, I don't want to go metric. cuhulin

There's a big difference between a vehicle being metric and a vehicle having some metric parts.

clifto wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@remote.clifto.com:

Vehicles designed in North America have been created entirely in Metric for at least the last 20 years.

In the CAD/CAM files, cars are subdivided into one-decimeter (10cm, about

4") cubes.

With a few exceptions, fasteners have been Metric for at least that long, I'm sure.

Not exactly. I've got a Merc Sable that has both Metric and English fasteners and bolts. So I bought one of those combination socket sets to cover all the bases.

Nick

My 1989 and 1991 Grand Marquises have more English than metric parts. My 1994 Acclaim has a good number of English parts, and they're always the ones I approach with a metric socket. All were made in the last 20 years.

Yeah, but not all parts on all vehicles in the last 20 years are designed in the last 20 years. I own a 90 Beretta (3.1), a 90 Chevy 1/2 Ton (350) and an 01 Trans Am. I've come across standard size bolts on both of the 90's. I'm trying to remember exactly what (it's late), but I think it was either engine related and/or rear axle related on the truck. Both engines on these two vehicles are old enough designs to predate metric. I do know that both shop manuals warn about the fact that they may use both measuring systems.

There is a possibility that the parts on these vehicles that aren't metric were replaced - on the Beretta, replacement balljoints and tierods weren't metric. (That might also be brand specific too.. Moog is say standard and TRW would be metric.)

I'm just a diy-er but generally buy tools in both SAE and metric. Even if you own a 1970 Buick that's all standard, you might meet a cutie with a 90 Beretta that's got a busted alternator... and eventually marry her. :)

Ray

Yep. It is a small PITA figuring out which a bolt head needs, but I'm used to it by now. In some cases you can get away with either. For example lug nuts: 3/4 inch vs 19mm. But on other stuff, smaller bolts that can't afford that *tolerance,* you have to get the best fit you can so as not to strip the bolt heads. Especially ones on the brake system that can require high torque (caliper bracket bolts).

He went to Islamic Madrassas when he was a kid, so what do you expect? He was Islamic. Don't know if he still is. But I won't hold that against him. As long as he doesn't make me bow down to Mecca 4 times a day and eat camel for supper.

Nick

clifto wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@remote.clifto.com:

You can tell I don't have much experience with domestic cars...

I once read somewhere years and years ago that Asian metrics are different than European metrics. cuhulin

snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net wrote in news:17314-47B6019E-392@storefull-

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That sounds just nutty enough to be possibly true...

And hey, I discovered a couple of years ago that my Japanese car has a

15/16" bore master cylinder. It's even cast into the side of the barrel.

There are a few different "Metric Standards". You have the European Industrial Standard and the Japanese Industrial Standard those are the common automotive ones. Then if you go into aircraft you get into the International Standard for Aircraft. Plus there are also quite a few "proprietary" sizes and threads as well. Then there are the real off beat ones where you get a metric threaded stud/bolt that uses a common inch size for the head.

I have a Craftsman adjustable wrench that is both Metric and SAE -- On one side it's clearly marked in inches and the other side is in Millimeters .

Sorry, I couldn't resist...

Pete

Craftsman adjustable wrench (I have heard some people before call them a Japanese socket set) that is both Metric and SAE.I have a big old pipe wrench that will most anything.

A buddy of mine, one time he was making fun of his wife.He said she has to use a pipe wrench to unroll a roll of toilet paper. cuhulin

Try owning a vintage Russian motorcycle (1952 M72). Even the local metric fastener place is scared when I walk in! Andy

Russian Motorcycle? You can buy a Chinese copy of a pre-war BMW R-71 Motorcycle (with a sidecar)

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if you want one.

Heck, nowdays there are Chinese copies of everything. cuhulin

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