Fuel comparison charts

As they should.

Crash worthiness is independent and not a function of vehicle mass.

Yes by all means, let's return to the technology of a half century ago.

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You can go, but I'm staying here. I love my XM radio, rearview camera, power everything, heated seats, no exhaust fumes, no tune up every

10,000 miles, tires that last for 50,000 miles, remote starter, and on and on.

It would be fun once in a while to cruise around in one of my old cars from the past, but not for my everyday driver.

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Ed Pawlowski

Why? What's wrong with people choosing a vehicle that gets ten or forty miles per gallon?

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Dean Hoffman

Ethanol might've been an energy sink at one time but that's apparently no longer true:

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Dean Hoffman

To increase the tax revenue from cars that can't meet higher standards. I would prefer taxing people for having children instead, but that's not the issue.

Nothing. No one is forced to buy a brand new car each year in the US.

GW

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Geoff Welsh

I'd put about as much faith in this study as any other Obama sycophantic government agency study.

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Frank

There is no fuel shortage. Prices are roughly the same as they were in

1980, allowing for general inflation. Washington has almost nothing to do with fuel costs.

We have plenty of grains and starch to eat. Those are not issues.

All in all, Chris, that's a lot of mush inside your head, for one person. Where do you get all that stuff?

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Ed Huntress

Conventional wisdom here in farm country is that the feed value of corn is unaffected by ethanol production. The left over distillers grains have as much feed value as the kernel corn.

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Dean Hoffman

So, basically you want a tax system based on punishment for things you don/t like.

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Kurt Ullman

Take the fine hand of the government mandating that so much ethanol must be used in fuel each year and consider that crop yields can vary considerably from season to season. In years of poor yield, this takes away from the food market as ethanol is mandated and price of food goes way up. Been happening.

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Frank

Theory and principle aside, out here in the real world those are the all and only taxes we suffer. Down here at the bottom of the pile, I'm always someone's enemy and therefore punished accordingly.

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AMuzi

As much of the crop goes into booze as into cereal:

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There are more charts like this floating around the web if you're interested.
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The raw material cost of the food is overshadowed by the retailing costs much of the time.

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Dean Hoffman

Washington holds back drilling - supply and demand. Washington taxes layer upon layer onto the fuel as a tax source.

The additives MTBE (trash junk that pollutes ground water) and now grain alcohol that robs the national store, world food bank, and home base food for all. Feed prices are up and fuel is also.

Mart> >

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Martin Eastburn

He did say with modern safety features. I'd love a "57 Chevy with all the new bells and whistles or a GTO, Impala SS. etc At least Chrysler/Dodge are smart enough to bring the Challenger and Charger back

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ChairMan

No, Washington isn't holding back drilling. They've let out hundreds of drilling leases that the oil companies aren't using. Prices have come down, not up. There is more supply than demand.

No, there is one federal tax on gasoline: 18.4 cents/gallon, where it's been since 1993. With inflation, its value keeps going down.

Corn ethanol has had some influence on grain prices. Otherwise, every one of your assertions here is a myth, Martin.

Ed Huntress

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Ed Huntress

I think your sarcasm detector is malfunctioning.

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Really!? You haven't so much as the first inkling of any clue?

One can obtain any number of vehicles, from classic muscle cars, to any of the below, or a build your own, which would, at best, get 10 mpg in city driving: Lamborghini Murcilago, Bugatti Veyron, Bentley Azure, Bentley Brooklands, Bentley Continental, Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, Maybach Type 57 ...

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Are any more clues than religious or Mormon necessary?

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM." - David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

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During an expose years ago on "60 Minutes", the question "which is the more toxic, MTBE or the gasoline itself?" was posed. The definitive reply stated conclusively that it was actually the latter, rendering the entire alarmist groundwater contamination issue by MTBE effectively moot.

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I don't know much about the Mormons. From what little I've seen, they tend to be pretty well educated, in general. I'm sure there are exceptions.

It looks more like paleo-conservative cynicism to me. Things have to be going wrong, and it has to be somebody else's fault -- especially if there are any non-conservatives in power. We're on the road to perdition and no amount of evidence to the contrary will be considered.

It turns their minds into oatmeal and they're incapable of examining evidence in an objective way.

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Ed Huntress

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