Clutch splines

Jan 29, 2007 11 Replies

Ive been looking at new clutches for my '91 celica. Can anyone (Ray?) tell me if Aisin were the original manufacturers of the cars clutch? Aisin have two part numbers for my car - they switch over half way through my model year and have only one difference - spline diameter reduces by 1mm to 28.8 at '91. Now ive scouted around EVERY other clutch manufacturer I can find and they all say one part number fits all and theyre 29.8mm (the size of the original model).



So i have a spare box from the late model (should be 28.8 according to Aisin) and sure enough its 28.5 give or take a smudge and a bit of tolerance for assembly. So why does everyone quote 29.8, a hefty



0.65mm difference in tooth-overlap.

I'm concerned!



Can't you ever ask questions with easy answers???

AFAIK, Aisin is the sole supplier for Toyota gearboxes (Toyota).

Sounds just like the typical problem with after market parts to me. They can make a part for less if it's close enough to work on more cars.

Dan

"Ray O" mumbled incoherently to the rest

Sorry! Force of habit! But thanks for the info, with them being supplier of gearboxes and also a clutch manufacturer that means they are probably correct in their part number assignment and all other aftermarket people are being cheapskates, even $2000 Exedy multiplates!! I think I'll email Aisin for complete confirmation before forwarding this info to the various manufacturers.

Thanks for the info!! As usual you have an answer to every difficult question i have to ask!

Danny G. mumbled incoherently to the rest of alt.autos.toyota:

I fear you're correct, although you'd expect a $2000 twinplate performance clutch to be correctly spec'd!

As long as you do not require useful information in every answer, I'll keep giving them a shot!

I would 'guess' stuff like that would most likely be by design for it's intended use. Racing! The perfect fit for most any part like that would not be the same for stock and racing.

Danny G. mumbled incoherently to the rest of alt.autos.toyota:

Cant understand how a racing clutch would be designed with an incorrect spline diameter (they're spec'd to 29.8mm for all gearboxes, but newer boxes use 28.8) . Using a larger diameter is less strong than the smaller diameter due to smaller tooth engagement area. Seems madness.

At times like this, when everything seems daft, it can be good to check the basic assumptions. Eg, are you sure about those sizes?

Andrew Stephenson mumbled incoherently to the rest of alt.autos.toyota:

Im awaiting confirmation from Aisin, but im 100% sure that the two clutch part numbers have those sizes according to the specs i read. I'm 100% sure on the size of the 205 box input shaft (measured it with digital calipers to 0.01mm). I'm 100% sure all aftermarket items are 29.8mm.

Oh I did not mean to imply anything was one way or the other.

Front page of my website showing my distinct lack of clutch friction material - no idea where the extra bits went - looks like they've been demolished in the bellhousing.

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