OT And so it begins...

Apr 18, 2007 32 Replies

It is basically illegal in Chicago to own or carry a handgun. Period. Then where are the gangs getting them from?

Charles of Schaumburg

We owned 6 carbuereted Corollas: 1 2T-C, one 3K-C and 4 3T-C's None of them ever backfired more than once. None of them ever backfired 7 times in a row, and none of them sounded exactly like a gun going off.

Charles of Schaumburg

Apparently you had one of the good ones. ;)

mike

Dad's old 77 we had for 22 years. One time we restarted it after it had been sitting for a long time. It sort of backfired starting up but it didn't sound like a gun going off. I've lived in Humbolt Park and heard the sound of a real gun going off. (Humbolt Park being part of Chicago, how come there are guns there if handguns are banned?)

Charles of Schaumburg

I recently saw a list of American cities in which more people are die violently than in Baghdad. Detroit was another ;)

mike

In message news:tnwVh.1465$Qp.875@trnddc07, Truckdude sprach forth the following:

Take a look at how many people from the rest of the world want to come to America vs. how many Americans want to live somewhere else and smoke on THOSE statistics.

According to this, Baghdad had around 5000 violent deaths during the first half of last year. It has about 5,000,000 residents. That is a violent death rate of about 100 per 100,000 per year, more than that of Detroit, assuming no more violent deaths.

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And according to the New York Times, the violent death rate was about 40 per

100,000 per month last August. That's about 500 per 100,000 per year.

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Yesterday, 170 people were killed by a bomb. That is a death rate of about

3.5 per 100,000 per day or around 1000 per 100,000 per year.

That's far higher than the death rate in Detroit or any other American city.

But I think the real figures are worse: According to a study from the Johns Hopkins University, over 400,000 people in Iraq (not just Baghdad) died violently 2003-2006. And that's low end of the range. That's far more than the 64,000 or so Americans killed by guns in the US during the same time period. Iraq has about 26,000,000 people, or a little less than 10% of the US population.

Jeff

PS, I see why you didn't inline post in this one. It has absolutely nothing to do with the message to which you are replying.

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My apologies: I didn't cite a source for these numbers. Here it is:

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44,000 Americans died in auto accidents last year, I wonder how that compares to the number of troops that were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, fighting for our freedom, last year?

mike

Go and do your own homework. I don't do homework for my students. I won't do homework for you. ;-)

I see you removed parts of my post again, without indicating that fact. Intellectually, dishonest. The usual.

Jeff

I would not expect anyone to do my homework. Isn't doing anothers homework intellectually dishonest?

Like any good lawyer one will only ask question to which they already know the correct answer. Since you apparently do not know the answer, you do a search ;)

mike

That's telling me that you don't know the answer.

Perhaps you would perfer to count them yourself:

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It doesn't include the Allied troops killed or the innocent civilians killed.

However, I don't see how it is ok for people to die in Iraq just because they are dying in car crashes.

Jeff

Apparently making the comparison makes him feel better. He does it quite often.

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