Re: Used Oil Analysis of CAMRY'S Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 after 4,920 miles

Jul 07, 2009 Last reply: 17 years ago 3 Replies


> > >>> You could buy three identical cars, keep changing the oil on all of them


> >>> with a different kind of oil in each, and try and rotate your commute
> >>> around all three of them so you put about the same mileage on them.  Then
> >>> you could do long-term oil analysis on each and five or six years later
> >>> probably get a good idea of how each of the oils is doing.  I could see
> >>> someone doing that.
> >> Such tests have been done, and no advantage was shown for synthetic oil.
> >> However they did not do extended change intervals. It could be that if
> >> they had gone 7500 or 10,000 miles between changes that they would have
> >> found an advantage to synthetic.
>
> > If possibly you are saying synthetic has ho benefit put some regular
> > oil and syn in the deep freeze and see which one pours at -15f better,
> > it also doesnt burn up in high heat like regular oil. Cold startup can
> > really starve a motor of oil.
>
> Yes, in extremely cold climates, and in very high performance engines
> that run very hot, there's an advantage to synthetic. The issue is that
> so many people use synthetic in mild climates and in normal engines, and
> also don't extend the oil change interval. They're throwing money away
> because all the tests show no benefit.- Hide quoted text -
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Not extreme cold is needed to benefit, even at 20-30f oils dont flow as well as they do when warm, also there is a group of earlier toyotas known to sludge and ruin motors from the motors higher operating temp, synthetic would have been a big benefit to them. I use it, I notice a diference, oil is cheap compared to a new motor.

Interesting! Audi is a small division of VW, but June happens to be the best sales month in 2009 for Audi.

Said Johan de Nysschen, President, Audi of America. “The trend is clear: Audi is outperforming the rest of the imported luxury car market on a percentage basis. And this is happening without extraordinary discounting and other gimmicks. It is a testament to the long-term momentum Audi has developed and the caliber of our products in the freshest fleet out there.”

So we'll see.

What is google broken, google data, how about the fact that a major percentage of engine wear is on startup, or is everything a myth to you, you must be a dino oil salesman.

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I am not a dino oil salesman. I am a research chemist, now retired.

If you quote a "fact" like "p;ercentage of engine wear is on startup", then you need data to back it up. .Numbers, not just repearting what you have heard or read. What IS the percentage of engine wear on startup? With synthetic and with dino. How were the data obtained (conditions, methods, population).

Question every perceived truth.. Evaluate the credibility of every perceived myth.

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