PULL TO THE LEFT

I just purchased a new 2004 Toyota Camry SE. What I have noticed so far is the following:

- the speedometer dropped to zero on two consecutive (first) trips but, never since;

- the car will pull left slightly at highway speeds;

- the steering shifts quickly on bumps or wheel tracks in the road;

- the tires appear to slip fairly easily on snow and ice; and

- tires appear to be not the greatest performance type.

Has anyone had the same experience or have any explanation for the above issues?

Thanks.

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Mario Bucci
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"Using higher tire pressures than recommended by the vehicle manufacturer for your driving conditions will unnecessarily stiffen the tire and make it even more willing to cause tramlining. If you are running higher tire pressures than necessary, simply dropping the tire pressures to those recommended by the vehicle manufacturer will help reduce tramlining."

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IceMan

This is a problem that affects 04 Camry's and some late 03's. Ther is supposed to be a TSB out on it. If anyone has it, please post it. I have had my 03 to the dealer 4 times and they say that it is in alignment, but couldn't explain why it was drifting/pulling left. they even repaced the original tires with a new set of Michelins!

After taking it to a front end specialist, he put it up on the rack and said that he thought that it had a bad rack and pinion (which is very rare). He said the car was easier to turn left than right, which causes the instability. after reproting this to the dealer and their consultation with "engineering", they advised that there was a TSB and that they would have to remove the front struts and make some adjustments. Not sure of the details. This is a very costly warranty problem for Toyota and I am sure that they don't want the masses to know. I am supposed to take my car in next week.

Steve

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Stevie Ray

In news:220220040919453480% snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com, Stevie Ray being of bellicose mind posted:

oooooooooooo.... a cover up! A TechnicalServiceBulletin that the public must be kept ignorant of. Why, there may be al Quaida connections!

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Philip®

Someone posted this earlier, but i missed it. The answers are here.

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Toyota is a bunch of scum bags. This is my first and last Toyota.

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Stevie Ray

In news:220220040959195917% snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com, Stevie Ray being of bellicose mind posted:

Funny ... the Geo Prizm (aka: Toyota Sprinter and Corolla) never exhibited your complaint. Nor has my 2003 Corolla. SO .... if your one experience condemns the entire brand then ... depart in peace ... and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!

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Philip®

My 2001 Camry has had this problem from day 1. The dealer blamed tires. When I later got tires they did not change anything. What are the chances of getting a bad set of tires twice? I have had the car aligned several times.

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Roger Blake

Phillip,

I am not saying that the wholeToyota brand makes bad cars. i am just saying that the way they handle problems and complaints is not satisfactory.

If they would admit up front that they have a problem and fix it, I would understand and be willing to accept it.

This sounds like it could be a massive recall, which they would like to avoid for obvious reasons.

It is all about attitude!

Steve

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Stevie Ray

When

times.

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BLimey

Thank you, I saved the message.

Roger Blake

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Roger Blake

"Philip®" wrote in message news:284_b.4755$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Its not a cover up. Just a bottom line business decision that is probably what most auto companies do. I am on my third Toyota, since 1987, all of them new and this is the third incident where they won't acknowledge a problem. The other two were with my 1987 Tercel. It came from the factory with a bad AC compressor, car put out an anemic amount of cold air. I went in circles with them and through their omnibudsman and was told that the AC was within specs. I finally brought it to an independent auto AC repair place. They diagnosed that it was a bad compressor. Toyota would still not fix it. I ended up having the independent auto AC place buy a Toyota air compressor and put it in. That solved the problem. Second problem and the one that did the Tercel in was the engine carbonizing. I first complained when it had about 70,000 miles that the car was losing power. The dealer diagnosed that the engine was carbonizing. He said it was happening because I was using cheap gas. I knew that this was not true. Later I found out that there was a recall / free repair but I was not informed because I had moved and they did not have my address and that I was no longer eligible. In the dealer's defense, I think that the recall came later...At 120,000 the car had to be put down. It was a tough car and about as much fun to drive as a tin can on wheels. I moved up to a 92 Camry. That was a great car. It got totaled in car wreck. It had 220,000 miles on it at the time. Based on my experience with that car I got another Camry, the 2001 that pulls to left.

I too won't buy another Toyota. Not because I am mad that they won't stand behind their product. That is a business decision. Toyota builds tough cars. I think the Camry is more comfortable and quieter than their competitors. I do a lot of highway driving so that was important to me. When you add that all up it sells a lot of cars. I have had a change in values. I think the handling, particularly emergency handling is sacrificed for the smooth ride. Like Detroit, Camry makes softly sprung cars for the American taste. In contrast to stiffer sprung European cars. I was almost in a wreck in my 2001 Camry and I think I would have a better chance at avoidance in say VW Passant or something like that, perhaps a Mazda. Unfortunately I have to keep this car for now because of the economics of replacing a car with

56,000 miles means a large economic loss.
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Roger Blake

In news:220220041245087024% snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com, Stevie Ray being of bellicose mind posted:

What I am hearing is that when you stomp your feet and pout for not getting your way ... you go off bad mouthing Toyota. That you have a problem does no mean the majority of other owners are experiencing your difficulty. Yes, it's about attitude ... yours. Some dealers have personnel who are not provided TSB advisories as they become available. Other dealer do make the TSBs known in a timely and efficient manner. There is a TSB back in '01 for the steering pull condition which is present in a small number of units. TSB ST005-01. Tech service bulletins do not qualify as safety related recalls.

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Philip®

Do all Camry's pull to the left including those manufactured in Japan?

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idunno

AC

The Tercel had a fairly low power to weight ratio didn't it? Even so, carbonisation only used to effect cars which were dangerously low in power to weight to start with, such as those old English Morrises and Baby Austins of the '40s and 50s which also had low-octane fuel as well. The theory being, their ignition had to be retarded so much to stop pinging they did lose a lot of valuable power.

Jason

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Jason James

Who died and made you GOD? Your sarcasm sucks!

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Stevie Ray

My 2001 which does was made in Japan..

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Roger Blake

In news:230220041734459104% snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com, Stevie Ray being of bellicose mind posted:

God hasn't died ... and he never will. My "sarcasm" is a gift on loan from God. ;-)

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Philip®

I thiink Mayhaps you are borrowing it from Rush Limbaugh. And It's still pretty bad.................Philip.................more emoticons dude,.................more emoticons............LOL

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