Is it worth $2900? 1963 bug, titled 1966?

Please also note that his first ad says, runs great. daily driver 50 miles to and from work. When asked for a picture of the underside he said he couldn't because he lives in Columbia, and the car is located in Hilton Head Island.. Makes it harder to believe, since in fact driving it to work is apprently not accurate.

I would say walk away . The vin number under the back seat should match the paperwork and title. If not someone has fraud on his hands and his state on his ass if caught. This vin number should, of course, match the other two location numbers. He is not telling you the truth about this and seems to only tell as much as he has to. I would not believe anything unless you can verify it yourself about this deal with the clown who is making it. Clean title that can be transferred to you with all correct numbers before considering purchasing in my opinion. If he cannot supply this, then he is selling salvage. If he wants to sell salvage and you want to take the chance that it is not stolen merchandise, still get the title and a signed bill of sale from him.

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................I'd keep looking. It's not uncommon to have a pan where the VIN is located sitting under a body from another year. The thing that alarms me is that it looks like a thrown together mish-mash of aftermarket and original parts. The bumpers are the cheap aftermarket ones that bend and rust. If it is a '66 chassis, it doesn't have the slotted wide five wheels that are unique to that year model. The upholstery looks cheap and poorly installed. The rust is a deal killer all by itself when your talking $3K. I wouldn't bet on the mechanicals being much good considering the overall condition. Be patient and keep shopping around. Go to the VW shows in your region and keep an eye out for bugs for sale there. The guys who throw together a POS like this 63/66 abortion don't ask that kind of money at a show because there's too many jerks like me in attendance who would stand around and hoot 'n holler at their 'bargain'.

First thing I see is that the car is a 66 not sure where the 63 is comming from. the seats and turn signal lights are 66 and it really looks like the body is 66 also.

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Listen to Dennis. Anything less than "perfect" as far as VIN/Title is just asking for BIG headaches down the road. Guys have been arrested and cars impounded for this kind of thing.

I might add that insurance on a mis-titled car is another disaster waiting to happen. Oh, the insurance co. will gladly insure any VIN you give them without question. BUT......comes accident time, you won't collect a dime if the accident had a different VIN than the policy shows.

Speedy Jim

Thanks! Pertaining to the 63, this is what he said: "Car is a 63 per chassis number... car is titled as 66. There is no serial number listed on dash for this year."

There is a plate in the spare tire wall under the washer bottle it has the body vin #.

Not sure if it applies to earlier years, but I do think so, underneath the rear seat on the main channel should be a plate with the chassis vin number. It should match the one under the hood by the water bottle. Of course this plate can easily be swapped out. So keep an eye out for signs of recent removal of this item if comparing the two. If they do not match then the chassis should be the 63 and the hood one should be a 66 as stated.

There were no VINs on the dash before '69, so it's possible that he doesn't even know where to look for it. It will be stamped on top of the tunnel, under the back seat. It may also be on a plate in the trunk, but the underseat one is the one your DMV will want to look at.

You seem to have found enough problems to want to steer clear of this one. I doubt if the year difference will give you any trouble, but any time you take an old car in to be registered, it pays to KNOW what the VIN actually means and to insist that they title it correctly. They will correct the mistake if you can prove that it is actually a mistake.

You will also want to be able to prove that you have a clear legal title to any car you buy. This is not essential, but without it, you have extra hurdles ahead of you.

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Thanks everyone. I used to post on here two years ago as ANDREWBA. I remember alot of you like Shaggie, Tim Rogers (His brown trout calender car!), Kafertoys, Ben Doyle, and Speedy Jim. I am going to stear clear of this one. Back then you people were telling me that I would just end up getting rid of my junkyard find autostick.. . I have lost interest in it because I can't get it running right. I rebuilt the engine myself. It seems great, and starts right up, but it wont idle for anything. I've drilled the main jet.. Checked for vacuum leaks.. No luck. I currently have it running a little rough and loud, but it will sit and run, and drive and run. Anyways, I don't want it also because it is the super beetle front end. The floor pans need replaced and part of the door pillar rusted loose. I'm not counting this car as a loss, I am counting it as a great learning experience for the next one.

small windows. body is that of a >'64.

Personally I would walk away due to the amount of inaccuracies told to you by the owner!!