OT: Any Mac heads out there? Going to order the Mini Mac...

Errr... Mac mini... not Mini Mac... You're thinking of the character on Austin Powers... Mini Me! It's going to end up being the nickname for sure though!

Firewall is built into the OS... you just turn it on in the System Pref. settings area. Anti-virus is pretty much not needed... I haven't bothered for fifteen years or more. Never got even one virus in all that time... None have been written for the current OS even! This is one of the bigger reasons that some people switch to Mac.

Some sites that I have Bookmarked that you might enjoy:

for files for files internet related programs extra calendars for iCal

for compatible products hints and hacks lots of stuff here TCP/IP ports used the other chap that founded Apple Computer! another site Apple Discussion incl. the Mac mini

Mac Rumours site Mac Rumours site Mac Rumours site Mac Rumours site Mac News site Mac News site Mac News site Mac News site Mac News site

Wheh, that should get you started!

Quicktime included, and you can download RealPlayer and MS Windows Media Player which also comes in a Mac version. Works for nearly all streams. There are also DiVX players, etc. for the other stuff. Once in a while you'll come across something done with an obscure Windows codec but not the mainstream stuff out there.

Web cam streams often work better with a MOZILLA-based browser such as CAMINO (which I use) rather than the bundled Apple browser called Safari.

Yes... enable sharing on the PC, and you can connect from the Mac. Drag and drop after that... You could also turn FTP or other sharing on from the Mac side and pull the files across that way. Probably easier the other way around as you likely want to do it from the Mac OS and just drag files between two windows.

There is a good Mac OS X book by Robyn Williams (no, not the comedian -- he spells his first name with an "i") that you might want to get or borrow from a Library if it is there.

P.J., the Mini-Mac has huge potential. I see it as a DVD player with BSD Unix! Hook it up to a couple monster drives and you have the start for a Tivo killer... which I think is just what Steve Jobs has in mind. It fits his iPod kinda thing.

Oh, and expect PC clones of a similar nature Real Soon Now. We have had tiny PCs for many years in dedicated devices, mainly for commerce.

Want one?

Thank you VERY much, exactly the info I was after, much apreciated!

Thanx. Jørn.

Ps. I will be using Opera as a browser, have been using it for about a year now, and could not be happier!

Does Winamp come in a Mac version? Realy like the Media library with all the net Radio and Tv there..Gotta go and have a look..

J.

Yeah, I was thinking an external 200GB for starters(next paycheck)..

Tivo, tv on demand?? Have seen the name used, but does not know the exact meaning, an American thing I believe.

J.

Really? Even though you either have to pay for it or have an advertisement all the time? You can do better... Have a look at OMNIWEB for a real treat! Otherwise, CAMINO is good... Also FireFox from the MOZILLA crowd. There's also iCab but it isn't moving forward as quickly as the others... Then there are a bunch of other browsers like KidsBrowser, good old Microsoft Internet Explorer, Netscape, Mozilla and of course Opera. Lots to choose from... I like Camino as it is fast, clean (a true COCOA-based application), and looks nice.

That's a LONG time ago... Basically we use iTunes from Apple which also has internet radio stations along with its access to the iTunes Music store.

This player is about all that's out there that supports WINAMP skins... It's just an MP3 player and is no where near as full featured as iTunes which supports a number of formats including AAC, etc. I suppose if you absolutely MUST have skins, then look at that program... but you'll likely just use iTunes after awhile as it is superior in so many ways. Xaudic hasn't been updated for several years now though.

A shareware choice that might be like Winamp would be AUDION:

Have a look at that one. Really, just go to

and do some searching there... That's how I found info on the above two programs... This thread shouldn't be kept alive here as it's not on topic for this forum.

If you join the Warp Six newsgroup server, we can chat all you want and you can get to know a bunch of other old Mac farts at the same time!

Instructions are here:

Let's continue there (sometimes it is down as it runs from a member's machine -- so be patient at times)...

Will do, I'll sign up as BergRace, whats your screen name there? I'll get to it a tad later today, got some kinda allergic reaction over the weekend, full of red spots, itching and tired from the antihistamines...

Thanks for your help so far.

J.

I made a posting in the "Tech talk forum"

J.

Red Bug wrote in news:blocked- snipped-for-privacy@news.telus.net:

Think Secret is in big trouble...

"Apple Computer Inc. is suing Harvard University student Nicholas Ciarelli's Web site,

alleging it illegally published company trade secrets. The Jan. 4 lawsuit also targets the Web site's unnamed sources for the leaks."

It does have big sex appeal, I would love to own one.

It's biggest failing is the poor default memory.. 256 meg. That might be decent for grandma to send email to her grandkids but for much else it's gonna get pretty cramped pretty fast.

My complaint is that once you beef it up to a decent amount of memory it's not significantly cheaper than any iMac. Going to 1gig of ram will nearly double the price of the machine.

Perhaps once these things are actually shipping and I have an idea how easy it is to crack the thing open and replace the memory myself I'll actually buy one. Having an OSX running machine on my desk would be nice.

The OS uses standard UNIX virtual memory techniques to use part of the hard drive as paged memory... you won't "run out of memory" but it won't be as speedy. If you want it to run faster, you get it with more memory.

If you are starting from scratch and are going to MAX THINGS OUT then the iMac makes a bit more sense... The Mac mini isn't targeted for those users however... remember this... Get it with just 512 instead of 256 MB... It'll be plenty fast enough for nearly anything it was intended for such as web browsing, email, letter writing, handling digital pictures, managing digital music...

Remember with one slot, you have to price a 1 GB RAM module, not the price of a pair of 512 modules... this makes it costly to go from 512 to the max. of 1 GB of RAM right now. Eventually that type of RAM will be affordable, so treat it as an upgrade in a year from now. If you don't mind putting in your own memory and can source a 1 GB ram module at a good price, you only will need to find a use for the 256 MB memory module... Stick it in someone's PC or Mac that uses the same type RAM.

As far as opening it, there are simple lock fingers around three sides that can be released with a putty knife or maybe even a credit card... no screws. You slip it into the gap and work your way around the perimeter and lift off the top of the unit. There are pictures on the web showing the insides with the cover off and you can see the fingers.

I'm no stranger to swap, but what I am a stranger to is OSX. How modest is the system? You can have all the swap in the world and not 'run out' of memory, but the disk will go into siezures with all the paging that goes on if you do anything 'big'.

To compare, running a modern windows system with 256 megs is begging for trouble the moment you hit the power button. Unix breeds can run happiliy with 256 megs on a modest installation, but tend to thrash when manipulating large files, building a kernel, running bloatware like Gnome/KDE, whatever. ;)

Where does OSX balance out on that scale? It has the BSD roots backing it up, but Apple put a lot of eye candy into the interface. Does it gobble memory like Windows, or not?

Discussing this on ramva is the last place I'd figure to do it, but I know zero mac users so I gotta get the questions in where I can.

The new mac has a great price point for an entry-level mac for a curious PC user, but like I said in my first post I have concerns about performance.

I ordered mine with 512, opening the box and swapping the RAM is easy, uses standard DIMM 2700 133 me thinks, it is listed under spec's. BUT you'll woid the warranty, thats why they want you to send it in....

J.

Are you certa J.

Consider visiting one of the comp.sys.mac.XXXX forums then... or join Mr. Berg and myself (and others) over at Warp Six to continue chatting on this subject... We've been back and forth about such things over there... Instructions on reaching us are at:

That pretty much confirms the matter.

No... if you blow it up or break it in some way while changing the memory and they can tell, you'll void the warranty... there are no labels across a seam or anything like that.

They just don't recommend it, as most users don't understand the dangers of static discharge, etc. and likely they don't own a good grounding wrist strap... When done properly with the right gear, there's no problem.

Not once in over thirty years of this stuff have I ever had a problem with such things. It is trivial to ground your hand while working.