Re: Why do all the ricers love the Honda Civic?

Depends what you're doing and where you live.

Yeah, sure. I'm not saying you couldn't beat an Sti through the mountains, especially if your vette is a z06, but "easily"? BS. It will be down to the driver, and an Sti is a very easy car to drive quickly.

BTW: I don't drive an impreza, I drive an EVO 7, in case you think I'm being bias.

the wrx is a FWD car Spoilers are used in racing on RWD cars to increase force over the driving wheels; the spoiler on the WRX is useless and it's only purpose is to help dorks "look cool."

Erm, no it's not. It's AWD.

OK I am readingn this on an aircooled VW list, but even I know that a WRX is an ALL wheel drive car and that the wing can be functional at speed. Seems that there is only one dork here......

-- the Grokdoc Tom Malmevik all that groks is god

67 Baja "marti"

Still a horribly overpowered supercrap plastic car, always has been, always will be. Sorry.

You are a truly sick person.

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Let me clue you in. It is AWD, not FWD.

He even repeated his mistake. He should have known he was wrong from the response he got.

I looked at the Evo VII when I was looking for vehicles and it was taken off the list of vehicles as soon as I got a good look at one. The WRX Sti looks like a well designed car and the Evo looked too much like a family car with some aftermarket parts added to it. I was surprised at the difference when I got a close look at both cars.

ME??!! You're the one driving the overpowered plastic car.!

Well everyone is entitled to their opinion I suppose. I'll admit the Evo isn't the best looking car in the world, but I still think it looks better than the Sti. The important thing is that the Evo is the better car to drive, and if you like driving round corners fast you can't get many better cars at any price. (although I might be tempted by a GT3)

Now it's a Corvette - just a post or so back it was a Cobra. No matter - there's no way your going to keep up on a rally course anyway: horses for courses!

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Your knowledge of aerodynamics and when and where they come into play is simply lacking. It would appear by your reckoning that all the race-touring cars and rally cars are equipped with wings... just to uhh, make consumers want them?? Move along please.;-)

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Hmm, that's hardly a valid comment. The Corvette is a helluva lot of car for the $$ and it's well engineered - shame they dropped the LT5 direction just when it looked like they were on the right track. Turning your nose up at a Corvette reeks of auto-snob I'm afraid.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Sure but even FWD cars can benefit from a rear wing under the right circumstances - there's more to it than: "increase force over the driving wheels" as he insists.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

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The overpowered part is what makes you sick. I wouldn't mind having 100 hp more than I already have. Maybe even another 200 hp.

I own the Corvette, but I don't own a Cobra or WRX Sti. I could afford to buy them, but I don't want to pay out the extra money for insurance for another car that won't be driven all that much.

We also get damaging hail storms here in Kansas City and I only have a two vehicle garage. If I were to buy a 3rd vehicle, something would have to be left outside in the weather.

Those were the deciding factors in trading in my 2000 Ford Ranger 4x4 on a 2004 F-150 4x4. Very small increase in my insurance and both vehicles can be parked in my garage. A WRX Sti would have added about $800 to my insurance per year and my Ranger would have needed to be left out where it could get damaged.

It reeks of ignorance, not snobbery. The Corvette is a very well designed performance car and anyone with any experience around performance cars would already know this.

Vince,

1) While it's obvious you are biased against the Corvette, let me remind you that you can not predict the future. Keep an open mind.

2) There is no such thing as an "overpowered car"... underpowered, yes, overpowered, never.

Patrick '93 Cobra (not fast enough) '83 LTD (underpowered)