Validity of new Oil Temp Gauge?

Jun 26, 2004 9 Replies

Just installed a new VDO oil temp gauge in Herman. New drain plate VDO sender, and 300* gauge.



For background:



1600 DP motor Bone stock, except for new alternator and 009 dizzy Stock 34PICT-3, aircleaner, exhaust. All doghouse cooling internals removed along with (non-existent) thermostat New stock DP heads (both sides)

Just did 4 miles of 68 MPH freeway, followed immediately by 4.5 miles of stop-n-go backstreets. The temp gauge read just-at-180* when I got home.



Is that normal? If so, what's considered abnormally high or low?



Thanks! Larry


Oil temp mostly determined by ambient temp and road speed. In a stock Type 1 running 70 MPH at 90F outside, oil can easily go to 200F.

There's no "magic" number and with today's multi-grade oils lubrication failures from too high temp are certainly rare in the VW engine. By far the greatest number of engine failures are from exhaust valve/seat failure.

Find out from experience what temps to expect on *your* engine relative to speed and ambient and use that as a guide to warning of cooling system problems.

Speedy Jim

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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 15:52:37 -0400, Speedy Jim ran around screaming and yelling:

yep...i have a beautiful example of a perfectly good running, nice consistant head and oil temp engine with a broken #2 exhaust valve...without notice(no excessive valve lash at adjustments) it went.... JT

Sounds normal to me. You get the higher oil temps doing highway cruising. Bugs love stop-and-go and cool down pretty quick. Absolute max temp I consider 260, with 240 being my yellow range.

I agree with Jim, abnormal for you is really a comparison to itself.

But here's a comparison to me. My old engine with a hammered main bearing, some go-fast goodies and NO external oil cooler would hit 260 in about 45 minutes of level highway cruising and could only do 20 psi of oil pressure @ 3500 rpm (about 65MPH). It was a shot engine and not healthy.

sounds about right... i had a stock 1600c in my 72 beetle with a VDO oil temp ga. with a drain plate sending unit and it would run about 190-205* that was in so. florida in the summer time about 95-98* outside with 80-90% humidity

Ok, just gave it a better test, so PLEASE tell me what you think of these numbers:

50 mile highway drive. Mostly hilly (with long uphill grades followed by downhillers). Speed fairly constant at about 68MPH. Outside temperature +- 85* F Oil is Mobil 1 red top (15-50) and fresh

Temp gauge at highest point reached just-at-220*. When I arrived in town and drove the 3 miles from the highway to home, it dropped to +- 200*.

Would *this* be considered "normal" for most motors, and secondly, where is the "shut the darn thing down now" point?

Thanks, Larry

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:39:07 GMT, "Larry St. Regis" ran around screaming and yelling:

your temps look good to *me*....i shut down if it hits 250....have only had to shut down ONE time in fifteen years...but that was because the engine was a "mutt" that someone had mixed and matched parts before i bought it... JT

Good temps. Drive and be happy. One good thing about Mobil-1 is that a crisis or two doesn't ruin it. When it gets much hotter out you might check again.

The Puma came with a factory oil temp guage. The factory said hot was over 230 degrees in my manual. My super ran warm all summer over 200 degrees. I like 190 to 225 in summer. I don't have a guage hooked up in the bus yet but I will soon.

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I would say yes.

I consider "shut it down now" at 260.

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