What engine is best for a Splittie Bus?

Dec 07, 2004 17 Replies

Read an interesting post on the vintage bus list about engine choices for early Busses. Some dude was thinking of putting a 1776 in his Bus and one of the posters advised against it saying that a high reving low torque engine is not the best choice for a split bus. This person advised running a 1600 SP saying the SP had more low end umph than a dual port for example. I recently traded a '66 'vert with a 1600 dp for a '65 Bus which the PO had put a 1835 with dual carbs. As part of the deal, we agreed to swap out motors. I did drive the Bus with the 1835 and man, what a difference in power. Accelerated like a regular car, excpet it did lack low end power, but once up to speed on the freeway it was kinda nice keeping up with the big boys. At idle and at low speed though, i thought that big engine was going to shake that Bus apart. I couldn't but help feel that an early Bus was not structured to handle that sort of power. Maybe I'm wrong but wonder what some of you others thought what is the best engine to run in a split Bus.



--Dan E


Dan I have a 1600 DP in my 67 westy daily driver and haven't had any problem in the last 2 years. It has both good low end power and has no problem doing 70 mph on the highway.

Mario Vintage Werks restorations

...............I've read & heard more than a few times over the years, that the best type 1 engine for a bus is a 1679 with machine-in 88 mm cylinders and single port heads. If you want to flail it at high speeds in hot weather, a type 4 with an upright fan conversion is what you'd want I'd think.

Both of the busses I've had (as drivers) have had 1600 SPs and I've never had any major engine problems. Never had much trouble keeping up with traffic as both had 67 trans/reduction boxes. Andy

Yeah, this should be interesting as the PO with the 1835 had a new trans and reduciton boxes installed with higher ratio gears for the 1835. I hope I don't end up like a bicyclist going up a steep hill in 10th gear.

--Dan E

On 12/7/2004 7:11 PM Braukuche stood on a soap-box and preached to the unwashed masses:

Dan, when's the last time you were in a bicycle shop? Basic bikes these days have 27 gears!

Man, I'd love to have a double cab! (I might even consider a bubble window one - YIKES!). Loved my 60 Single Cab when I had it but 3 kids and a wife just wouldn't fit in the under bed compartment .... Andy

I still have my old 10 speed from the 70's. Don't really know why someone would need 27 speeds, but I guess that more is better. :o)

Bill Berckman

67 Beetle

you obviously did not fold them properly...

------------------- Chris Perdue "I'm ever so thankful for the Internet; it has allowed me to keep a finger in the pie and to make some small contribution to those younger who will carry the air-cooled legend forward" Jim Mais Feb. 2004

..........You talk big when she's busy in another room changing the diaper.

i change as many as she does...hehe...im not scared...had greese under my nails for years a little poop won't hurt....

------------------- Chris Perdue "I'm ever so thankful for the Internet; it has allowed me to keep a finger in the pie and to make some small contribution to those younger who will carry the air-cooled legend forward" Jim Mais Feb. 2004

Yeah, no kiddin'. My kids are almost grown up and I still have grease and poop under my nails. *retarded grin*

Hilarious! Almost spilled my Margarita .....

It's all about matching a low-power engine (human body - at least mine) to the load (uphill, downhill, etc.) the fewer gears you have, you either have to space them so far apart that you're either in one too hard for the terrain or too easy for the terrain, or if you space them closely enough to match under one kind of load (flats with varying degrees of headwinds, for example) you don't have any left over for hills. With lots and lots of gears, the steps between them are small, making it easy to find a comfortable gear for most conditions AND you have enough gears at the extremes for better climbing and faster descents.

Probably help keep the grease out donchaknow....*8-}

-- the Grokdoc Tom Malmevik all that groks is god

67 Baja "marti"

hehe...good point...

------------------- Chris Perdue "I'm ever so thankful for the Internet; it has allowed me to keep a finger in the pie and to make some small contribution to those younger who will carry the air-cooled legend forward" Jim Mais Feb. 2004

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