had one ... but the doors fell off

Who is Earnest Borgnine? Perhaps before my time?

Ted

And how is this different from any other business?!?...

Face facts, every year cars are more complex and require more skill to repair. As the average worker in the United States considers any sort of educational endeavor after age 20 to be equivalent to asking them to join the Army and go to Iraq, it is pretty obvious that skilled auto repair technicians are a scarce commodity and as the years pass, will continue to get scarcer.

We live in a capitalistic society, last I checked. In such an economic system, prices rise on scarce commodities. A skilled repair tech deserves to get whatever the market will bear. If the auto customers don't like it they can buy cars that are better made and don't break down as often, or they can learn to do their own repairs. Hell, it's not like there's not a plethora of information on fixing cars out there, there's tons of books that have been written on the subject.

Ted

Bill,

No, A-body. Olds Ciera. The hinge part that was welded to the door post fractured in half, thus only one weld was holding the hinge on, that weld broke right off the sheet metal soon afterwards.

I don't think it was ever welded properly, the weld looked like the sheet metal of the door post never melted into the weld itself.

The '80

well, mine was too old for GM help, I took it to a body shop who had seen this before. The replacement hinges were bolted onto the door post. They didn't even try rewelding it which kind of surprised me. If I had known they wern't going to reweld it, I would have fixed it myself.

I've welded on sheet metal before and watched a master welder do it, so I knew I couldn't have rewelded the hinge myself, that is why I took it out. Apparently the body shop guy knew he couldn't do it either.

Of course. My observations from hanging around watching transactions at the counters of these yards is that the primary consumers of this are most likely the migrant Mexican workers who are too poor to replace leaking water pumps and such in their roach coaches, they just keep pouring the free stuff in. So the antifreeze ends up spilled on the road anyway. Those people seem to treat wrecking yards as full service auto parts stores.

Ted

Never said it was. The person that I was replying to make it sound like independants were tied to Chilton/Motors/whatever time for what they charged. I just stated that they were not. Dealers are also not tied to any particular labor guide for anything other that warrenty work. Then they are forced to accept what the manufacturer will pay, be it a fair time or not. I'm really not disagreeing with anything else you state below.

Denny

"Denny" his

Hey maxpower, I didn't say that. That came from the phillips poster..

Denny

"maxpower" responded:

No, I posted correctly as that is how I interpreted the original statement. Whether you meant it that way or not, that is how it was interpreted. What you fail to realize is that the written word will not always be interpreted by the reader in the same context in which it was written.

"the phillips poster"

Perhaps you should post the proper technique one shold use when quoting another post?????

"the phillips poster"

Doesn't matter, we all knew what we meant...

At least you go a sense of humor!!

Denny

I am not worried, I am having fun. I have a life but when out on disability because of a severely broken right ankle, which does not allow me to drive or do much of anything, I sit here at the computer reading and posting to see what kind of mindless repsonses you will post. You always come through with something even more senseless than your last response. Thanks for helping to make my recovery more joyful..................and you have even misquoted so I have a new nickname from "Denny"! Isn't life grand???????

"the phillips poster"

I wish you the best and speedy recovery....

Meanwhile, if you have to be laid up, I guess the holiday season is a good as any. At least you don't have to worry about who is gonna cut the grass for ya...

Denny

The sense of humor helps ease the pain from my ankle and the physical therapy I have to perform daily to bring it back.

"the phillips poster"

Never do...............the gardener comes every Friday - or once in awhile on Saturday instead.

"the phillips poster"