Dakota Windows

I am going to be tinting my front windows on my 97 Dak to match my back ones, and to make it easier, i wish to remove the window while i do this, unfortunately, i have no idea how to get the damn things out.
anyone done this before?
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Check your local laws first. Here in UT, for example, very little non-oem tint is allowed on door windows for the front seat area.
Then there's the wisdom of it; try riding with a friend ( let them drive, please) on a pitch black night wearing a set of sunglasses about the shade of the tint you want. You'll be amazed at what you cannot see.
I had all four headlights on bright one night in CO on my 68 Fury and a car with limo tint on all side and back windows pulled right out in front of me. It was a good think I didn't have any tinted windows . . . . .
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remove the window while I do this, unfortunately, I have no idea how to get the damn things out. Anyone done this before?"
Why would you want to remove the window to tint it. Not sure how dark your rear window is but depending on the state how dark your front windows can be. I just had my front windows retinted since the original tint was legal at the time but the state I live in lowered the max blockage of light you can have. My original tint was 65% blockage and the new tint is 45% blockage. I still have to roll down the windows to back up at night with the tint on the windows.
I paid to have mine done at a tint shop since I can get a lifetime warranty. They put the tint so close to the edge of the window you don't even notice the split between the door frame and the window. So why take the window out to tint it?
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On 1 Mar 2006 20:58:48 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know how the window comes out, but I wonder about the wisdom of tinting a front window...
Also, as someone who's pulled over a car with tinted windows at night, I'd want to see how the local police feel about the tint thing first... Safety says that the less a cop can see of the driver, the more steps he takes to stay alive... Just a personal thing, but I'd rather have a semi-relaxed cop approaching my truck than one that's creeping up with his weapon ready.. YMWV
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Heck, Mac, I had that happen to me long before window tinting . . .My crime? I hadn't been drafted yet ( hardships deferment to care for my ailing mother), and the county sheriff thought I should be in Vietnam regardless of my mother's health.
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just because they smoked a bit of weed -- go to jail or vietnam. Just curious if true. I hard if you looked at one of them the wrong way that was enough. And just so you know you guys have a lot of respect her north of the border rach
p.s. I would just be happy finding a windshield without a crack in an older dakota -- all mine have cracked windshields
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I tried weed back in 68 and, to be honest, I got more buzz off a couple beers. Never smoked it again. In 69, I joined the military.
My only crime was not being in Vietnam, that I can tell. I spoke with the deputy (Jim Cisco, a friend of mine) that was with the Sheriff that night a few days later and he couldn't understand why I was pulled over.
I had passed the patrol car a couple miles earlier after it pulled out in front of me. I had been, at the time legally, in the inside lane of a four lane highway getting ready to turn left into the roller skating rink when he pulled out from a road on the left. I signaled, changed lanes because he was going very slow, then signaled and changed back to the inside lane for the turn, covering over a mile in the time being (speed about 45).
He hit the gumball lights just as I had began the turn into the crossover. I went to pull to the shoulder instead blocking traffic and the gun came out. He threatened to fill the car full of lead if I didn't back up. I heard an air horn as a semi was now getting closer, so I hit reverse and punched it.
Where he broke the law was in demanding to see my draft card. That's when he read me a riot act about not being in Vietnam. Since I had not broken any driving laws, he had no reason to pull me over except to harass me.
So, I contacted friends and family and the next year he lost the election by a landslide.
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And become a cop killer???? No way.
Only if he shot first and I could prove, without doubt, he was in the wrong, and that would have required Deputy Cisco's testimony.
That Sheriff had been hassling anyone under 30 for four years and had won election on a claim of fairness / impartiality. The only young people that got by with anything was his own kids. Yes, crime was down a bit, but the next Sheriff made a bigger impact by being tough on everybody . . . .he wrote up the head of the county government for DUI.
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probably didn't make a difference, Budd...
I got a ticket for "not making a complete stop" at a stop sign the first night home from Nam... The cop saw my expired license, a copy of my discharge showing that I could legally drive and told me that he admired the folks in nam... then wrote the ticket.. *g*
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In your case, the officer had to do his job regardless of his personal feelings, though I see "California Stops" all the time, even in UT.
In my case, the Sheriff had NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to ask for my draft card without a Federal Court warrant, as I found out from the deputy that weekend and from a JAG officer I had the pleasure of escorting (ok, I was his jeep driver) a couple years later. He could have ended up in Fed prison.
As it turned out, the county got a new Sheriff that wasn't biased against young people or thought God should have asked him for advice.
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Budd Cochran wrote:

themselves...but no, of course not
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The Sheriff was an ex- Marine or Army, I'm not sure which, ( Relax guys, I know all Marines aren't quite that bad . . .Not quite <BG>) from then Korean conflict and maybe the tail end of World War 2. He just had the opinion that any young male not in the military was a draft dodger. Proven reasons meant nothing to him, he wanted every male under 40 to be cannon fodder in Vietnam.
By the time my mother went into remission, I'd decided 'Nam wasn't going to be fought with the intention of winning, so I went National Guard. I don't know if Canada has a reserve military force ( citizen / soldiers) or not, military companies that meet once a month for training "just in case", but that what I went with. Part of the decision was based on what a cousin told me after a trip back from 'Nam as a rescue pilot,. I had just helped him out of a rosebush after a car backfired and he told me not to go to 'Nam if I could avoid it. So, unlike Bill Clinton, I stayed in the U.S. and stayed out of the draft legally.
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Ok Budd, now you have me confused. First you claimed that you could not join the Army because of an existing medical condition. Now you are claiming that you initially didn't join to take care of your mother and then later choose not to join because of the situation and decided to hide in the NG instead like your buddy Bush. So tell me Budd, which one is it?
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Doesn't take much to do it, does it?

No, your selective memory is kicking your butt for you. My youngest had the medical condition that prevent joining the Army, I had Polio and recovered from it.

No, the draft board said I couldn't join because they agreed she needed me to provide income for her.

True, I did not agree with the Democrat agenda to try and contain the North Vietnamese, so, instead of becoming cannon fodder for the Democrats, I joined the National Guard. Now, before you conveniently forget again, at the time, the Indiana National Guard Corps of Engineer Battalion was averaging, per company only 60% of TO&E strength, that's the level needed to qualify for activation if needed. When the Battalion achieved full strength, in 72, we were notified we could be activated if needed, so, yes, Tom, I could have been in Vietnam anyway, unlike Clinton who was hiding overseas and defaming the US in general.

Well, unlike your god, Clinton, I stayed in the USA and I served my country as I chose. Hide? That's your bigotry speaking, isn't it? Unlike Clinton, Bush is not a draft dodger, he joined a recognized branch of the US military. Also unlike Clinton, Bush is more qualified to lead our military and our country because he is not a traitor.
Now, before you make this into another argument thread, stuff it. I've explained this to you for the last time . . .again. Do try to remember it for more than 2 seconds. I suggest you print it out.
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Not with you Budd. You change your story so fast that I cannot keep up.

Yes, and you said that even though you recovered, you were unable to pass the physical.

During war time, yea right.

You really are a bitter man Budd. Even if your unit was activated, that does not mean that you would go. Funny how when a Republican is in charge, it is the American duty to follow, even if you don't agree but when a Democrat is in charge, then it is ok to run and hide. A bit of a double standard there.

The only bigot in this discussion here Budd is you and yea, if you joined the guard to get out of being drafted, then you ran aweay and hid.

Sure he is. He is a deserter. More concerned campaigning for the old man then defending his country or even completing his service.

Well, as you have proven yourself a liar in the birthday thread, it is pointless to continue but perhaps you should just answer an honest question instead of making a childish attack.
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It has always been the same, it's your memory that changing, for the worse.

Then how did I get in? The Reserves / National Guard forces have the same physical standards as the regular military.

Ya know, Tom, it's really none of your business about my military service, even more so that it was none of the Sheriff's business. The fact that I am unashamed of my military service is the reason I am willing to give you or anyone ANY response at all.
Btw, the Local Draft Board, made up of bipartisan, prominent citizens of Johnson Co. Indiana, made the determination that I needed to stay home based on evidence presented by my mother and her doctors. I was never interviewed or anything, therefore, I was not dodging the draft. I was the eldest child in the home, all my sisters and kid brother were still in school. Now, who else would have been able to go to work full time to provide for a family of five? Should I have left them to fend for themselves?
Tom, have you ever, and aparently, never, considered there is always a percentage of souls on the front lines in battles that while they are doing the job they've been ordered to do, don't agree with the reasons for the wars they are fighting? I've known several, from 'Nam, WWII, Korea, and even my step-dad in WWI. But they put others and their own country ahead of themselves.

You must get some sort of gratification from that phrase . . .

And your proof is? Do you have access to top secret documents from the Indiana National Guard and Reserves?

So, tell us again, Tom, what branch of the military did you serve in? We already know you put your biases before serving your country.

So, Co. D, 151st Airborn Rangers is made up of "draft dodgers"?
http://www.75thrra.com/history/d151-his.php
Their unit was next door to mine after they returned from 'Nam. For your information, most of the prior service personel in my unit, and probably most guard units, were 'Nam vets. Guess what, Tom? If any of those units had bee activated to'Nam, their butts would have been back over there.
Yeah, you're blowing out your butt again to start an argument.

I did answer your childish, or possibly it's early onset senility, question, and you as usual are trying to make an argument out of it. Go for it . . .you're just arguing yourself into a hole. My military service records are on file with the records of all guardsmen, in Indianapolis IN, and in the military Archives in D.C. I have two honorable discharges (Colorado [I finished my IN enlistment in CO on a transfer, before you twist this around] and Utah). How many honorable military discharges do you have?
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