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You mean like your's? BWWWAAAHAHAHA...you illiterate little turd.
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It sure was a heavy burden to take over the ruins after the communism and stupid management. Interestingly enough the same can be said of the failed communism and stupidity of both East Germany and GM. The difference is how the failure is treated. For 20 years Germany is bringing up a new generation of people and is getting back on its feed. In Detroit the schools are closed and what is growing up is an area know mostly for burnt down house, derelict ruins and drugrelated generations of uneducated slums. The communists left a less bad legacy than GM.
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now that's a stretch GM brought down detroit , and the communists are better than GM. you either live in the wrong country or your world is awful dim.
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On 16/03/2010 9:28 AM, Tom wrote:

Yes it is a stretch, but not a stretch to say the same mentality and culture that brought GM down also brought Detroit down. Entitlement, poor work ethics, greed, corruption, unions, liberal debt, lack of mutual respect and low to non-existant morals. A cancer actually.
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They brought Detroit down but only moved GM
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On 16/03/2010 7:10 AM, Bjrn Helgason wrote:

Much less worse. It would be easier to upscale east germany than to deal with Detroit. Nobody wants to do what it takes to fix Detriot.
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The government is supposed to make sure everyone goes to school and provide healthcare not be running a company that only lines the pocket of the rich. The so called communist states did exactly the same so Detroit is an example of same corruption and negligence as any other dictatorship like Zimbabwe and friends.
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On 18/03/2010 4:39 AM, Bjrn Helgason wrote:

Hey, if you are not needed or doing something for someone else, you are useless. Worth is zip.

No doubt, GM was corrupt, right to the core. Should have been let to die. Now we have a blood sucking zombie.
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Bjrn Helgason wrote:

Oh please no! Barf!
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On 15/03/2010 4:15 AM, Bill Putney wrote:

By workers, management and the board of directors. All just hen pecked GM to death while producing crap.
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Canuck57 wrote:

I assume you mean the generic "you" there and not me personally. But to be sure, I don't drink Keynesian kool-aid - I agree with you that it is fraudulent philosophy but is unfortunately how many of our political class and the voting public think because it's presented in public forums and in our schools as if it were a law of nature whether they know what it's called or not.
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On 15/03/2010 4:10 AM, Bill Putney wrote:

I mean anyone personally that thinks GM bailout was good. There are so many economic reasons why GM should have been liquidated it isn't funny. Now you have a giant leach sucking hard with people saddled with the debt.
Someone would have bought GM, fired management and union and cleaned up GM by now. In fact, they would probably be making money and hiring big time by now. Get a 20 year no-union BS and some rich cats like Warren would have paid $30 billion for GM too.
And most likely a decades of a lower standard of living as the debts consume wealth. As all the debt, 30% more debt will be added under Obama in just 2 years. That isn't going to be cheap.
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finally gone bust like GM
Very similar reasons
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Yep, the credit ran out, productive people have left, no one left to pay for union and politician tax greed.
It was inevitable as Detroit has been on this path for 5 decades, and reality just caught up to the debt-statism types.
With the numbers of companies, cities and states that are bankrupt, I am just waiting for the 2008 like crash. As Obama/Bernanke can't keep electronically counterfeiting no value money forever.
Canada is no different, Ontario, Quebec, PEI, BC, Winnipeg, Toronto and more all heading towards default.
But hey, politicians love pushing bailout corruption. Tax people that often have no pensions, have lower wages and cut their government benefits for noisy greedy politicians ad unions. Its ll about corruptiona nd greed gone mad.
Answer here is Detroit workers get their wages and benefits hacked, you lay off all waste and run the city like a business. But first, you have to fire, run off or get rid of the rotten corrupt bas-ards running the show.
Even cut the pensions of the last 50 years as the corrupt collecting pensions they never paid for deserve no breaks. Its high time the governments take the pain the productive people have to deal with.
Or just fire the entire city at once with a giant foreclosure and rebuild it completely. But this time limit the voting to people who pay for it, and not let a majority who think governemtn money is free out run the productive people.
Reality just caught up with Detroit. Coming to a Canadian city near you as bailouts and transfers reward dysfunctional behavior and we love taxing the crap out of Candioans for dysfunction and government bloat.
A good movie to watch is "Idiocracy". When I watched it I thought it was a stupid movie but then I got the hidden message. If you keep rewarding idiocracy and corruption with bailouts, in the end that is all you will have, idiocracy.
On 20/07/2013 1:33 AM, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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problems are many
too spead out
only one industry
lots of corruption
going downhill for decades
too reliant on cars
it is difficult to see detroit coming back
it is worth studying for others to learn from the mistakes
we are slowly finding out that traveling in single big expensive combustion engine cars is not the way to go
we should have found that out a long time ago but a lot of people have not accepted it yet
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 00:29:44 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

BS

More BS. Cars are a much more efficient way to travel. The only reason "they are not the way to go" is when a city gets too big that it's no longer livable. If you want to live in that kind of city you are welcome to but the cost per trip will be HIGHER in that mass transit and the TOTAL trip will take longer. You won't see the higher cost most of the time because OTHERS are paying for at least half of the operating cost and almost all of the construction cost. With a car you pay for your own car and almost all the operating cost.

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many cities have free driverless electrical public transport
google has made driverless cars
gm might rise from the ashes if they started to make such cars
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 00:04:16 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

The real future IMHO is PodCars. Little 2 people pods that drive themselves on fixed "guidways", like wires in the ground, for most of the trip and at the beginning and end the driver does the driving. electric most likely. Probably 50 years away. Detroit would be a good place to start on them.
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they are already available
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 00:19:11 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

In wide scale use over many miles? I've heard of the rentacar systems but nothing that uses computer controlled end to end driving to major points and available to anyone with a credit card. What application are you thinking of and where?
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